($27) JJ gets mondo action

[durron597]

Early, no read. However I just raised UTG+2 with ATs two hands ago and checkfolded the QJx board.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

BB (t1500)
Hero (t1390)
UTG+1 (t225)
MP1 (t1450)
MP2 (t2910)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1430)
Button (t1455)
SB (t1670)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t245) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t330</font>, Hero calls t180.

Turn: (t905) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t1000 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

[unreal_nh]

calls

CO has 88-1010?

[durron597]

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calls

CO has 88-1010?

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That's what you think his whole range is? I'm never beat here? He's never totally bluffing? What about A6s?

[citanul]

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calls

CO has 88-1010?

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That's what you think his whole range is? I'm never beat here? He's never totally bluffing? What about A6s?

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no, everyone just lately for some reason expects every hand to be either:

a bad beat

or

a great, but simple "duh" call when you know your opponent's cards.

personally i don't think you're losing all the hands you're ahead of on the flop if you push, i think most overpairs are calling you, though you're behind some. you might get a clal from a 5 at this point AK, etc. and folding out AK isn't exactly a bad thing. otherwise you're giving AK a free card and then what, checking to him on the turn?

citanul

[unreal_nh]

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CO has 88-1010?

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That's what you think his whole range is? I'm never beat here? He's never totally bluffing? What about A6s?

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well... u'd think he would reraise pf with QQ+.. and possibly call with any pair under jacks. i cant see a person playing a set that aggressively. cant think he would call a raise with 5 7 -- but i guess its possible. its possible a donk could have A6 there. or maybe he was bluffing the flop with AK--since u played weak 2 hands earlier. but yeah, my guess is 8's thru 10's

[Iamafish]

AK, maybe a set.

[KramerTM]

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Flop: (t245) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t330</font>,

Hero calls t180.

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durron...

IMHO, I think this is trouble spot right here. Why are we calling here? Surely it's not to trap when there are 12 cards that can come off on the turn that scare us into utter passiveness and often folding the best hand. Are we automatically giving Villain credit for QQ+ here? I think most opponents reraise QQ and KK here and possibly smoothcall AA. Regardless, this might be a spot where if he has AA.. well.. that's poker. But, I truly think 77-AA is raising the flop here. Don't call and give him a chance to take it away from you on the turn of a Q, K, or A comes.

[adanthar]

I push the flop 90% of the time and fold around 9%. If you are calling, it's because of that very rare, 1% case where it's a maniac with literally any two and you are check/calling the turn without looking at it.

Otherwise, there are literally zero good things that come out of calling, mostly because you'll either be calling a push on any turn or giving a free card to a hand with 86 thousand outs.

[durron597]

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I push the flop 90% of the time and fold around 9%. If you are calling, it's because of that very rare, 1% case where it's a maniac with literally any two and you are check/calling the turn without looking at it.

Otherwise, there are literally zero good things that come out of calling, mostly because you'll either be calling a push on any turn or giving a free card to a hand with 86 thousand outs.

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Well, yes, but remember the previous hand where I check folded a flop after raising preflop.

He had JTo and I double up.