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09-16-2005, 11:43 PM
Party 10+1

I just seem lost when I get AA/KK in later stages of the game. Is there ever a right time to slwoplay AA/KK??

Im thinking you can get more EV out of AA/KK when the blinds are bigger or once your ITM.

EX, 4 players left. blinds at 75/150
(4000)UTG FOLDS
(1000)BUTTON FOLDS
(1500)SB hero with AA
(1500)BB ???

Do i call or minraise? which will get me more money? In what situations should I slowplay and how (mindraise or call)?

Ty for any reply. Brian

valenzuela
09-16-2005, 11:47 PM
I wouldnt slowplay AA/KK at all OOTM. Im a big fan of slowplaying AA/KK already in the money.

EDIT: I like slowplaying AA/KK when the blinds are low enough to see a flop. For instance everyone with like 2500 chips and blinds 75/150

09-17-2005, 12:14 AM
Go all in.

You will get allin more often against the big stacks like this, rather than doing something like min-raising which basically screams "monster".

do EXACTLY what you would do with a mediocre hand, when you have AA... that way they dont suspect things, and you wont get so mad when they call you JQs push with K10 and win.

raptor517
09-17-2005, 12:17 AM
whoah wtf? sum1 stealin my bebop? oh hellz nawww. holla

09-17-2005, 02:52 AM
If the blinds were any higher push easily.

If you had been pushing hands before and not showing them down also push easily.

DO NOT CALL unless you think you can entice a reraise (which you can't so just don't call)

I hate minraises, but this is the perfect time for one. At any other level this might not work but at the 10+1 level a minraise can suck someone into calling a large portion of the time. Any higher buy in level push, any higher blind level push.

Fatdogs12
09-17-2005, 02:57 AM
Umm nm

KramerTM
09-17-2005, 03:33 AM
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Party 10+1

I just seem lost when I get AA/KK in later stages of the game. Is there ever a right time to slwoplay AA/KK??

Im thinking you can get more EV out of AA/KK when the blinds are bigger or once your ITM.

EX, 4 players left. blinds at 75/150
(4000)UTG FOLDS
(1000)BUTTON FOLDS
(1500)SB hero with AA
(1500)BB ???

Do i call or minraise? which will get me more money? In what situations should I slowplay and how (mindraise or call)?

Ty for any reply. Brian

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Your move here is dictated by how aggressive you've been lately. If you've been raising a lot, then by all means, raise here hoping he comes over the top. If you've been noticeably tight, then limp and trap him on the flop.

roma12
09-17-2005, 04:18 AM
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jeffraider
09-17-2005, 04:24 AM
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roma12
09-17-2005, 04:35 AM
and....to answer your questino directly...at the party 10s, no, never slow play... own it...:) read my other post

roma12
09-17-2005, 04:55 AM
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09-17-2005, 05:03 PM
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whoah wtf? sum1 stealin my bebop? oh hellz nawww. holla

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I dont follow...

09-18-2005, 12:23 PM
I think slowplaying the big pairs has a lot to do with your table image and what type of players you're up against. Is the BB aggressive? Does he want to push you around? Are you an aggressive tight player that always raises or folds? In general, the more aggressive I've been, the less likely i am to slowplay a big pair, it will look fishy. And conversely, the weaker I appear, the more likely I will limp from the SB with the big pairs.

Also, i think there can be situations OOTM that call for slowplaying. It's trickier and, of course, a lot more risky. but sometimes on the bubble you gotta let the big stack push you (the smaller stack) around in hopes of doubling up.
good luck

Freudian
09-18-2005, 12:38 PM
I am more and more switching to making about the same raise with everything (if I don't go all-in). So here I would raise it to 400-450 and see what happens.

If the table is filled with solid players, limping might be an idea. If it is filled with donks a minraise might be an idea. But most of the time I do a standard raise.

cha59
09-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Many of the other replies suggest that how you play this is dependent on reads of other players and your table image. I agree with these thoughts, however as a general rule, just push it.

In certain circumstances pushing might not be best, but as a default play, it is best.