This hand makes me want to cry. 1/2 NL

[Karak567]

Should I have folded pre flop? i mean a family pot with a lot of implied odds... I had to see... the turn is where it is really interesting though...

Do I really suck this bad?

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Button ($75.76)
SB ($213.73)
Hero ($292.95)
UTG ($378)
MP ($181.15)
CO ($499.57)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB (poster) calls $3, Hero calls $2, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($16) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9, MP folds, Button calls $9.

Turn: ($43) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, Button folds, SB pushes, Hero ???

[orange]

I would fold PF.

And if you did call PF, what kind of a flop were you looking for? This is pretty much the best looking flop you could get- I probobly call and lose to 66.

[ajmargarine]

Implied odds for what? You flopped one of the best flops you could hope for. Call the push and take your medicine. And fold preflop next time.

[BBD]

You have to call this bet. And yup, calling K-5o PF in a raised pot sucks bad.

[Godfather80]

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Should I have folded pre flop? i mean a family pot with a lot of implied odds... I had to see... the turn is where it is really interesting though...

Do I really suck this bad?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Button ($75.76)
SB ($213.73)
Hero ($292.95)
UTG ($378)
MP ($181.15)
CO ($499.57)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB (poster) calls $3, Hero calls $2, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($16) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9, MP folds, Button calls $9.

Turn: ($43) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, Button folds, SB pushes, Hero ???

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I'd fold preflop, but calling is fine I think.

My question is: if you were going to raise the turn at all, why did you raise so small? If you just were looking to get more money in the pot, then I think that you should call because you have accomplished your objective. But, if you were raising that amount so that you could fold to a push, then I think you have to fold. Since I don't know why you raised the amount you did, let's look at what we know.

Opponents Hand Range:
Without any previous reads on SB, we know that, preflop, he called a min-raise from the button after several limpers. Typical player hand range here would be all pairs 22-99, suited connectors, Ace-xsuiteds.

Then, SB led out on the flop for a little more than 1/2 the pot. This appears to be a probe bet. His range now narrows to suited connectors like 34,45,56, 67, &amp; 78; pairs 55-99; Ace6s &amp; Ace5s.

Then, SB led the turn for a 3/4 pot bet.
Group 1: If the flop bet was from a suited connector, then this bet means he has either 6/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 45, or 56. I think that the turn must have either helped him because he sees that he is OOP and there are still 2 players willing to call bets on the flop; or be inconsequential to him because his hand is so strong.
Group 2: If the flop bet was from a pocket pair, then he has 55-99.
Group 3: A/images/graemlins/club.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif is possible as well as any A5s

After you basically minraise, SB pushes.
Group 1: 56 seems unlikely now because why would he want to drive you off with a lock hand. If he is an aggressive player, then 7/images/graemlins/club.gif8/images/graemlins/club.gif is possible, but not as likely as 45.
Group 2: This push doesn't make a lot of sense with any pocket pair hands.\
Group 3: A5s might push here and A/images/graemlins/club.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif might as well.

Pot Odds: When opponent pushed he made a raise of $130.73 over your $70. Which means you have to call $130.73 to win $311.73. You are getting approximately 2.4:1 from the pot. With those odds, I think that this is a call.

Note: I would have just called the turn.

[gol4pro]

K5s is okay in this situation. K5o is VV bad.

Also, don't slowplay this flop for dear god. Someone probably has a suited connector, and flopped an Open straight draw. Get some money in on flop, and all in on turn.

[stu-unger]

fold PF, raise flop, get it in on the turn.

[Godfather80]

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fold PF, raise flop, get it in on the turn.

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Very succinctly put. "Raise more on the flop" is all I'll add.