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Steve
09-16-2005, 03:41 PM
First hand of $55 tourney. Anything I should have done differently? I felt that his cold call on the flop was suspicious so I just gave up.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1000)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t67.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t110</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t110, Button folds.

Turn: (t342.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t350</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t842.50

09-16-2005, 04:06 PM
Not sure!
I've made this play a lot of times. This is a very good and sophisticated type of bluff.
People always get scared of that type of play.

Thought, I would fold too! He could have the 6 or mabey a bigger pair. (for some reason, some people like to slowplay AA or KK)

No matter what, if he had the 6 he would go allin on the river.

Steve
09-16-2005, 04:13 PM
It certainly would be a very sophisticated bluff. To make this play he would have to assume

1) I was paying attention enough to see him cold call the raise on the flop
2) I noticed his smallish raise on the Turn
3) that I was capable of laying down a hand with a Jack
4) that I don't have a 6 myself

Given all those factors I discounted the bluff and assumed he was legit.

nyc999
09-16-2005, 04:16 PM
I'm going with slowplaying. This would be a great bluff, but during the first hand MP1 has absolutely no read on you.

pooh74
09-16-2005, 04:41 PM
How is betting the flop calling a raise, raising the turn, considered slowplaying?

nyc999
09-16-2005, 05:10 PM
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How is betting the flop calling a raise, raising the turn, considered slowplaying?

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MP1 limped, check-called flop

Ogre
09-16-2005, 05:19 PM
he probably has a 6

curtains
09-16-2005, 05:28 PM
I would fold after being raised on the turn. In all honesty once you are cold called I immediately would feel like there are good chances Im behind.

Steve
09-16-2005, 05:32 PM
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I would fold after being raised on the turn. In all honesty once you are cold called I immediately would feel like there are good chances Im behind.

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True, maybe I shouldn't have even bet the turn.

xJMPx
09-16-2005, 05:36 PM
I agree that he is playing this like he has a six. But what are his likely holdings? The only hands I can see possibly containing a 6 after limping MP are A6s, 67s, 56s. All of these would be pretty loose, no?

Could he possibly be playing 88, 99, TT this way? I think it is unlikely, because he would be more inclined to re-raise the flop than waiting for the turn.

If calling guaranteed a showdown then I would call, however I probably fold this.

Any comments on this possible holdings?

citanul
09-16-2005, 05:40 PM
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True, maybe I shouldn't have even bet the turn.

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yar matey.

check turn, and if you feel like it, you can always call on the river when someone who might be bluffing might bet, instead of only 6s.

i don't think many people at any limit are capable of the bluff call and then lead in this type of situation. some are, but not many.

citanul