QJs in EP - play along

[bozlax]

Nice loose Party .5/1 table...4-6 players seeing the flops, nobody reading the board very well, not a whole lot of preflop raising going on. Let's play (preflop is standard, IMO, so let's start with the flop decision):

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ?

What's your play?

[2+2 wannabe]

I nearly always bet this - but I don't know if it's good or if it's a leak. I do know that it seems like we have equity to do it - but I'd like to hear other's opinions

[MrWookie47]

Bets. Hope CO raises.

[hemstock]

Eaaaasy bet

[milesdyson]

bet.

[Sightless]

bet-_- you got the best draw

[bozlax]

Ok, not much excitement, there. Hero bet, hoping CO would raise, which he did, and Hero called. Here's the turn:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ?

I didn't 3-bet the flop because I didn't want to scare off MP2 and ruin the value from instigating a raise from CO, and also to setup a check-raise if I hit my hand. So, now you know what I was doing, what would YOU do?

[milesdyson]

bet again. trap mp2.

[@bsolute_luck]

HOORAY for the turn donkbet /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bozlax]

Yeah, that's what I thought...I totally effed up the turn. Should have donkbet, but I had check-raise in my head when I called the flop raise...and I lost some bets from MP2 because of it. Here's the rest:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

[MrWookie47]

[ QUOTE ]
bet again. trap mp2.

[/ QUOTE ]

He raised you once, he'll probably raise again. And you'll profit.

[David04]

Bet the flop.
Bet the turn.
Bet the river.

[numeri]

[blind post on flop decision]

I know I'm late, but I want to jump in here and post my thoughts. (Not because they have particular value, but because I'd like to compare them to others.)

So I say check here with intent to check/raise. I know we have a very strong draw, but I'd rather have CO bet and get a couple calls before I raise. If I bet, one of the MP's could fold, CO raises, and then I'm not extracting as much as I can.

OK, so it really doesn't make a difference. There are two players between me and the CO on either side, so in fact it's probably better to bet out, since people will be more likely to call my out-of-place bet. Yay for 180's.

[numeri]

[blind post on the turn]

I say bet out again. You got a perfect card - bet out and hope MP2 calls and CO raises. CO will probably bet if you check to him, but then you just blow away MP2 and only end up getting two bets anyway.

[Mathieu]

Bet. We want to build the pot, since we have a strong draw.

[Mathieu]

Bet, CO might check behind. Even if he bets, your raise is likely to drive out MP2, who might be calling with something ridiculously weak.

If CO has a monster, he might reraise you /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Please keep in mind i'm a noob.

I bet here. You've got the As and 9s for your straight, any spade for a pretty good flush draw. I'm not really afraid of any hands (that I could buy out) right now or I would c/r to try to put them out. J or Q looks like a bad card to hit on the turn or river though, because AJ or AQ has the straight then. I'm probably check/calling the turn if its a blank.

[aK13]

That turn was uninteresting, since the river is always going to be bet/raise/3bet/cap.