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obsidian
09-15-2005, 09:06 PM
UTG is absolutely horrible and has been losing a lot with his 90/54/2.1 stats. He bluffs way too much. SB is 57/23/1.7.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, UTG calls.

River: (12 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
tighterr
09-15-2005, 09:16 PM
What are you doing on the river??? You reraise? then you must be doing this for value but then you only call the three bet? I would either 4 bet for value or the best move would simply call the first river bet and showdown. Personally I think your beat
ArturiusX
09-15-2005, 09:16 PM
Nice table.

I like it all.
joker122
09-15-2005, 09:20 PM
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What are you doing on the river??? You reraise? then you must be doing this for value but then you only call the three bet? I would either 4 bet for value or the best move would simply call the first river bet and showdown. Personally I think your beat

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you've got some pretty mixed up ideas.
ArturiusX
09-15-2005, 09:20 PM
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What are you doing on the river??? You reraise? then you must be doing this for value but then you only call the three bet? I would either 4 bet for value or the best move would simply call the first river bet and showdown. Personally I think your beat

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I don't know about this, a horrible player will donkbet with the 2nd best often enough to make a raise worth it.
tighterr
09-15-2005, 09:25 PM
You really think it is worth a raise? This is certianly worth a call but I just cant see the the greater reward too risk in raising the river. please explain?
GTSamIAm
09-15-2005, 09:39 PM
There's usually no need to raise the river.
obsidian
09-15-2005, 09:43 PM
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You really think it is worth a raise? This is certianly worth a call but I just cant see the the greater reward too risk in raising the river. please explain?

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I am not playing against a sane person here. He most certainly does not have a 6 or else I would have heard on the turn. I think he donks a worse ace, PP, or total bluff enough to make a river raise profitable. When he 3 bets me I groan but folding would be about the worse fold ever against this opponent.
flawless_victory
09-15-2005, 10:11 PM
cap that sh!t.
imported_leader
09-16-2005, 05:01 AM
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cap that sh!t.

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I agree. This guy is 90/54/2.1. That's amazingly maniacal. He's 3-bet here with way the worst of it most of the time.
Poldi
09-16-2005, 06:41 AM
I hate the idea of capping the river. These maniacs play weird hands so he can have the 6 or 2. Actions like that are what keeps the maniacs in the game.
aK13
09-16-2005, 06:44 AM
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I hate the idea of capping the river. These maniacs play weird hands so he can have the 6 or 2. Actions like that are what keeps the maniacs in the game.

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He will also play any ace, and mid pocket pairs like this, as well as complete crap like Q3.
Escape
09-16-2005, 07:22 AM
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I hate the idea of capping the river. These maniacs play weird hands so he can have the 6 or 2. Actions like that are what keeps the maniacs in the game.

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He will also play any ace, and mid pocket pairs like this, as well as complete crap like Q3.

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he won't call our last bet with Q3. I think you played this hand perfectly.