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Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 03:11 PM
The Chuddo thread is locked?

IndieMatty
09-15-2005, 03:12 PM
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The Chuddo thread is locked?

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Yeah seriously. Perhaps that really was a cause of the lag?

scrub
09-15-2005, 03:13 PM
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The Chuddo thread is locked?

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How is this surprising?

I'm amazed it wasn't deleted a few days ago when people started posting the girl's picture.

scrub

09-15-2005, 03:13 PM
I think it was causing lag. An explanation would have been nice though.

steelcmg
09-15-2005, 03:14 PM
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The Chuddo thread is locked?

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How is this surprising?

I'm amazed it wasn't deleted a few days ago when people started posting the girl's picture.

scrub

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I really started thinking last night about if that girl could get 2+2 into trouble for herassment?

jokerthief
09-15-2005, 03:14 PM
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IndieMatty
09-15-2005, 03:15 PM
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The Chuddo thread is locked?

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How is this surprising?

I'm amazed it wasn't deleted a few days ago when people started posting the girl's picture.

scrub

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I think if it's hotlinked to where it is already posted on the Internet, there are no issues Mason and crew have with people posting others pictures. It's not like a personal photo in photobucket, anyone has access to that one.

Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 03:16 PM
Man... I was hoping that Pokerjo thing was going to be enough to push it over 1k replies.

Also, Stuey, you better not have actually cancelled that username.

jokerthief
09-15-2005, 03:20 PM
Someone needs to start a new thread. First of all, this stuey development has so much potential. Plus vaavoom, was going to post a jpeg of all the comments before they got deleted. Patrick this needs more cowbell!!

09-15-2005, 03:23 PM
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The Chuddo thread is locked?

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How is this surprising?

I'm amazed it wasn't deleted a few days ago when people started posting the girl's picture.

scrub

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I really started thinking last night about if that girl could get 2+2 into trouble for herassment?

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The site can be liable under certain circumstances. However, she'd be an idiot to go through all the hassle of a lawsuit, unless she can get punitive damages.

PITTM
09-15-2005, 03:27 PM
it was causing a ton of lag for me. if you can sue someone for linking to pictures you put in a public forum on the internet there are laws that need to be changed...like that one...

rj

thatpfunk
09-15-2005, 03:28 PM
I don't understand why Stuey felt so bad about his PokerJo creation. It was SO good.

I was one of the guys saying that people were being stupid in harrassing the girl and I stand by that. But flirting (not threatening)with some complete d-bag is heeeeeelarious.

Slow Play Ray
09-15-2005, 03:28 PM
I know I've already said it, but I just can't over how mesmerizing your avatar is.

TomHimself
09-15-2005, 03:30 PM
wtf bullshit that was greatest thead ever

Blarg
09-15-2005, 04:12 PM
I thought it was a simple case of moderator abuse, but I am getting tons of lag now.

I have no idea if that thread could be the cause of it, but it wasn't an hour or so ago when it was about the same size.

I'm leaning back toward moderator abuse, or complaints to the administrators by Caroline. Or maybe Olivia. Or even Polo Player! It's always easier to shut something down than deal with its hassles.

Without words from "above," all we can do is speculate, so there's my share.

MrWookie47
09-15-2005, 04:26 PM
I think we definitely deserve a few words from our moderators as to why.

Dynasty
09-15-2005, 04:31 PM
That thread wasn't reported to the moderators through the normal means (the button at the bottom of posts).

I haven't been reading this soap opera. But, if pictures are being posted of some girl a 2+2 poster dated and then had problems with, nobody should be surprised.

I'm guessing there's a lot of laughing at both the 2+2 poster, the girl, and other paties involved?

Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 04:43 PM
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That thread wasn't reported to the moderators through the normal means (the button at the bottom of posts).

I haven't been reading this soap opera. But, if pictures are being posted of some girl a 2+2 poster dated and then had problems with, nobody should be surprised.

I'm guessing there's a lot of laughing at both the 2+2 poster, the girl, and other paties involved?

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All the pictures in that thread were already posted by the girl on her publicly viewable internet blog. They were public domain. And yes, there were nearly 900 replies worth of pointing, laughing and jeering at the girl, the OP, the girls' friends, the girls' friends' friends, the OP some more, new gimmicks and fake myspace accounts, and just about everybody else who posted in the thread. There was laughing, there was crying, there was shaming, there was pwning, there was lying and busting of said lies, sanctimony, guilt, redemption, more sanctimony and shame, this thread had it all.

I'm not sure if it's worth reading at this point, though, for any reason other than just so you know what's going on. It's one of those threads where it's hifuckinglarious if you're in on it as it's going along, but uber lame if you go through and read it all after the fact.

Eurotrash
09-15-2005, 04:51 PM
this is a sad situation.


even moreso because it was locked not too long after I posted the MS Paint Olivia. /images/graemlins/frown.gif


that is just not freaking fabulous.

Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 05:17 PM
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even moreso because it was locked not too long after I posted the MS Paint Olivia.

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This is too bad. That MSP Olivia was freaking fabulous.

ddubois
09-15-2005, 05:21 PM
I don't understand why it isn't standard practice to add a short note to a thread before it's locked. Just two words "Too big", "No Pics", whatever would typically be sufficient. This thread being locked is a travesty.

Blarg
09-15-2005, 05:35 PM
Definitely lots of laughing going around.

Basically, two guilty parties both being dopey with each other, both blab on the internet about it. One is more contrite than the other, one gets mean and then faces a retaliatory dogpile on her blog by OOTiots. Astroglide's comments that OOT has gone to hell, and some latecoming moralizers, most of whom didn't seem to have actually read the whole thread enough to put whatever posts they stumbled across in any kind of context, parade high-mindedness and perhaps a few problems of their own. Apparently the girl takes down her blog in disgust. Then the thread is locked.

The End.

It was pretty freakin' fabulous while it lasted.

Blarg
09-15-2005, 05:41 PM
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I don't understand why it isn't standard practice to add a short note to a thread before it's locked. Just two words "Too big", "No Pics", whatever would typically be sufficient. This thread being locked is a travesty.

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Agreed. It would be much wiser and do the moderators as much good as the members.

The only thing that would be lost would be the ability to exercise control without coming up with an at least half-assed reason.

Vavavoom
09-15-2005, 05:45 PM
IT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST THREADS I HAVE EVER SEEN ! /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Ulysses
09-15-2005, 05:52 PM
I just hope he addresses this point, which has been bothering me all day:

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Something just occurred to me. You went out with this chick one night. You made out with her. She got naked for you. You spent the night.

How did you end up not having sex with her?

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Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 06:03 PM
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I just hope he addresses this point, which has been bothering me all day:

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Something just occurred to me. You went out with this chick one night. You made out with her. She got naked for you. You spent the night.

How did you end up not having sex with her?

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Yes. This definitely needs to be addressed. Or at least dodged.

Hamish McBagpipe
09-15-2005, 06:42 PM
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Perhaps that really was a cause of the lag?

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But OOT is still laggy even though the Chuddo thread is locked. It could just as easily be some kind of outside attack due to the Song of the Day thread. I personally believe it is because of the Chrjapin: ethnicity? thread.

offTopic
09-15-2005, 07:05 PM
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I just hope he addresses this point, which has been bothering me all day:

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Something just occurred to me. You went out with this chick one night. You made out with her. She got naked for you. You spent the night.

How did you end up not having sex with her?

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They go back to her place, she's got one of those futon things in front of the TV, they're making out, then she falls asleep, then he falls asleep, then she wakes up, has to go to the bathroom, thinks she can change really quickly without waking him up - meanwhile, he's been watching surreptitiously the whole time - and OOT believes it was intentional.

chuddo
09-15-2005, 07:12 PM
since your curiousity is so piqued diablo:

it was our second date, not the first. i am pretty sure she is not the type of person to sleep with someone after knowing them only that short a period of time. or i am not dead sexy enough to have managed that. or a combination of the two.

if i recall it kind of got to that point just by being caught up in kissing and whatnot, and any there wasn't any expectation regarding sex. (or should i call it sleeping with?)

but yeah, like i said she doesn't strike me as the type to sleep around. at least with me, obviously. then again i may be way off and it was just that my allure is null.

you have never made out and messed around with a girl after a couple dates, but not had sex?

Blarg
09-15-2005, 07:16 PM
This sounds like the beginning of one of those stories where everybody contributes a line.

SL__72
09-15-2005, 07:20 PM
I think the part that makes it confusing is the:
Making out --> Seeing her naked --> ??? --> platonic sleepover... presumably without a third date (until this recent mess)

CourtesyFlush
09-15-2005, 07:52 PM
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since your curiousity is so piqued diablo:

it was our second date, not the first. i am pretty sure she is not the type of person to sleep with someone after knowing them only that short a period of time. or i am not dead sexy enough to have managed that. or a combination of the two.

if i recall it kind of got to that point just by being caught up in kissing and whatnot, and any there wasn't any expectation regarding sex. (or should i call it sleeping with?)

but yeah, like i said she doesn't strike me as the type to sleep around. at least with me, obviously. then again i may be way off and it was just that my allure is null.

you have never made out and messed around with a girl after a couple dates, but not had sex?

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I still don't get it, probably because you are being super vague. You made out with her, messed around etc, saw her completely naked and then decided to sleep over and not have sex? When you say "naked", do you mean you just got her shirt off or something? Usually if a girl is willing to let you see her completely naked, you are getting sex if you want it.

Patrick del Poker Grande
09-15-2005, 07:59 PM
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since your curiousity is so piqued diablo:

it was our second date, not the first. i am pretty sure she is not the type of person to sleep with someone after knowing them only that short a period of time. or i am not dead sexy enough to have managed that. or a combination of the two.

if i recall it kind of got to that point just by being caught up in kissing and whatnot, and any there wasn't any expectation regarding sex. (or should i call it sleeping with?)

but yeah, like i said she doesn't strike me as the type to sleep around. at least with me, obviously. then again i may be way off and it was just that my allure is null.

you have never made out and messed around with a girl after a couple dates, but not had sex?

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I still don't get it, probably because you are being super vague. You made out with her, messed around etc, saw her completely naked and then decided to sleep over and not have sex? When you say "naked", do you mean you just got her shirt off or something? Usually if a girl is willing to let you see her completely naked, you are getting sex if you want it.

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Yes. Where's the video? We need video evidence before we can move on. Someone call security.

Blarg
09-15-2005, 08:17 PM
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since your curiousity is so piqued diablo:

it was our second date, not the first. i am pretty sure she is not the type of person to sleep with someone after knowing them only that short a period of time. or i am not dead sexy enough to have managed that. or a combination of the two.

if i recall it kind of got to that point just by being caught up in kissing and whatnot, and any there wasn't any expectation regarding sex. (or should i call it sleeping with?)

but yeah, like i said she doesn't strike me as the type to sleep around. at least with me, obviously. then again i may be way off and it was just that my allure is null.

you have never made out and messed around with a girl after a couple dates, but not had sex?

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Boy what a lot of confidence.

"We're smooching it up and it's getting sexy here -- she must not find me attractive."

Huh?

"I got her clothes off but didn't sleep with her."

"The next date I didn't even get a good night kiss, and she didn't invite me in."

Hmm. Some of this is not fitting together to make you look like you have your confidence and your act together.

09-15-2005, 08:23 PM
I'm actually a little hessitant to do this, but it is actually making me sick having to sit by and see what people are saying about Olivia, and what they are doing to her. It does warrant mentioning that I know olivia via the Brian that caused lexington brian his name. I'm holed up in a hotel in Los Angeles right now, so I'll answer any questions regarding Olivia's character or intentions.

First of all, she feel stupid for posting the thing about the date on her weblog. She uses her weblog to keep in touch with her friends because she works roughly 45 hours a week, plus baby-sitting kids with CP to put herself through college to go to lawschool. She didn't think that he would read it, nor was it ever intended for anyone other than her small circle of friends. How Brian found out about the site, I have no idea short of him sitting around googling Olivia hoping to find her. Does it make it ok for her to do this? She feels guilty about it now, but she only intended to post that so her friends knew how her date went. It went poorly.

The real reason I'm posting this is that certain members of the forum seem to have taken to the thought of her getting a kick out of the attention. She has not. She hasn't been able to sleep due to the threatening messages. This contributed to her having to go to the doctors yesterday. Her mother's house was vandalized last night, which she has caused her even more grief due to some people's obession with putting her picture all over this site via her avatar and contacting her, calling her a whore and telling her that she should kill herself (some of your buddies aren't cool enough to use your cute little acronym to threaten people via the internet I guess). .

She contacted the forum owner and the moderators to close the post. I think it is safe to calling a 22 year old girl an attention starved whore who should kill herself while posting contact information easily falls under the line of a violating the "threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, profane" portion of the terms of use.

I'm not sitting here on my high horse. I've ran my mouth on the internet many times and probably was involved with some mob mentality relating to defending other members of a community. But calling a girl a whore because she wanted to let her friends know how a date went, and then tried to defend herself when it was made to look like she was sleeping around with someone on the internet is just [censored] ridiculous. Even worse are the people with her picture as an avatar, apparently living vicariously through someone else's misery.

She's cried non-stop for two days. Her mom's house was vandalized (probably unrelated obviously) and now she's scared to go to sleep because she lives alone. She keeps getting messages telling her to kill herself. She's had to delete the few things she had for her friends on the internet.

The original thread was locked for a reason. Freedom of Speech doesn't allow people to make threats and defamatory comments. If you are one of the people who think they are captain funnay with her pic as an avatar, I know you are probably just trying to give lexington brian here a hard time, but it's creepy. Some of your members have acted very well, and I know it is just a few people sending the threats out of a very large community. But a few people seem to be obsessed with her and need to let it drop.

If your goal was to make one of the nicer and sweater girls I've met cry and physically sick, congratulations - you've won. Score one for the OOT Posse or whatever you call yourselves.

Oh, a couple more things. LouisvilleMojo isn't a dating site. It's a community here in Louisville that a lot of people belong to chat and the such, much like the 2+2 forums. They just have a much bigger tool for setting up your profile. Some people do use it as a dating site. The reason single is in bold is because the site does that for some reason. It's not her yelling and screaming for dudes. From what I know, she's gone on dates with basically three people in past year including lexington brian, and louisville brian.


Also, those calling her an attention starved whore because she has pictures with her with girls who aren't up to your standards are fools. Olivia has some pretty damn attractive friends. She's just not the type of person who would not be friends with someone because they weren't up to her standards or whatever.

Like I said, I'll be here for the next hour or so if you have any questions regarding her character or intentions, because I really can't sit by and watch her be torn apart on the internet. But I'd really rather some people grow up and let it drop. No more digging up her info. No more IMs. No more posting her picture all over the place. You want to bring up the infamous olivia story, whatever. This is an epic post. But you are ruining a wonderful young girl's life to impress your internet buddies, and it just needs to stop. Yeah, the internet is harsh, but hopefully the members of this board have enough collective maturity to stop all of this.

p.s. she does in fact say fabulous a ton.

if a moderator or the original poster could lock this thread too, that would be great.