Why are the table coaches always the loose passives?

[partygirluk]

The guys who constantly bitch about getting gutshotted, runner-runnered etc. tend to be the same players who chase gutshots, runner-runners etc.

Why is this? Seems counterintuitive to me

[Bodhi]

We dislike in others what we most dislike in ourselves.

I think its because they feel that they have something to prove.

[bernie]

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I think its because they feel that they have something to prove.

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Like how much money they saved for the hand since in hindsight they lost. If they'd have 3 bet their mid set on the flop or turn, they'd have lost more money since the guy ended up making his flush on the river. Money saved is money earned even when it was clearly the wrong play during the hand.

Friggin' morons. I love watching these idiots rebuy.

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[Al Schoonmaker]

One of my psychology profs once said, "Any sentence about people that includes the word "always" is almost certainly wrong." His statement applies to your thesis.

Lots of table coaches have styles other than loose-passive. In fact, I have not seen a strong relationship between playing style and the tendency to be a table coach.

Regards,

Al

[Xhad]

Most table coaches I know are tight-passive. It's like, they read one book, and all they got out of it was "don't play too many hands," so now that they are the masters of starting hand selection the rest of us are unworthy. There's one guy at a local cardroom I frequent that always spends the first few hours complaining about how badly I play (usually referring to things like capping a five-way pot with 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif on a board of K /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, or 3-betting with AKo preflop), and then the last few hours complaining about how stuck he is.

The loose-passives that suck out all the time also bitch, but in my experience they complain more about bad luck itself than the complain about other people's play. These people probably understand the skill factor little, if at all.

[Jorge10]

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Most table coaches I know are tight-passive. It's like, they read one book, and all they got out of it was "don't play too many hands," so now that they are the masters of starting hand selection the rest of us are unworthy.

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Pretty much the description of every table coach I have ever seen.

[eOXevious]

Cause good tight, conservative players know not to complain about people who out-draw other people.... In fact we want these people to keep drawing, they will loose in the long run.

Do you guys ever see the ones that will put their face in their hands after they dont hit their "15 outs" ? I find this one QUITE AMUSING

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Any sentence about people that includes the word "always" is almost certainly an obvious hyperbole

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FHQ.

If you're honest with yourself you will realize that 100% of table coaches are tight, though not nescessarily "tight-aggressive". I have never seen a table coach that was loose. I think the reason for this is they know just enough to play tight pre-flop (and probably suck postflop)and probably are making a big deal of the fact that they have memorized the starting hand rankings.

[Xhad]

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I have never seen a table coach that was loose.

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I have, though they weren't loose-passive; they play too many hands because they think they can somehow catch up after the flop, then they bluff far, far, FAR too much, which allows them to berate the "calling stations" even though some of us are just good players who know better than to fold second pair against them.

[smarterthanyoda]

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The guys who constantly bitch about getting gutshotted, runner-runnered etc. tend to be the same players who chase gutshots, runner-runners etc.

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In my case, these are both signs that I'm on tilt. When I'm not on tilt, I don't complain. As my tilt-ness grows, first I complain and then I play badly. I don't know about other players, but if you were playing against me you would probably see:

1) I'm on tilt.
2) Someone sucks out on me. I complain.
3) Now that I'm even more on tilt, I'll start chasing hands I shouldn't.
4) Eventually, I'm on tilt bad enaugh that even I see it and I go home.

[SpaceAce]

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If you're honest with yourself you will realize that 100% of table coaches are tight, though not nescessarily "tight-aggressive". I have never seen a table coach that was loose.

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That is utterly ridiculous. Unless you've simply expanded the definition of "tight" to mean " genuinely tight players plus anyone I think is a table coach", it is silly to claim that every table coach is tight. I have seen dozens of table-coach types ranging from tight-passive to loose-aggressive.

SpaceAce

[KeysrSoze]

I think "tight" means "tighter than the guy who just sucked out on him". Saw someone call 2 cold with A6o get beat by 75o, his reply... "you called with that? what a fish!"