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POKhER
09-15-2005, 07:45 AM
villan is 44.4/2.22/0.54 (135 hands)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.
<font color="blue"> Call ok? implied odds..? big pot...</font>

Flop: (10 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">Sure some of you say BET BET BET? Flush draw?

I wanted to set up a check/raise then check call if flush complete and hope to boat up...

I would probably Fold river UI to LOTS of aggression from CO if flush draw came in on turn(bb doesnt bother me, have him on PP/AK/AQ low chance of two suited clubs surely?) </font>

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

<font color="blue">Check raise, pity co folded. if this was a club and co bet/raised giving me 9:2 or 10:2 if BB doesn't 3bet(Highly doubt he would due to my read) i'd call 2 bets and fold river UI to aggression. </font>

River: (10.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

<font color="blue">Is play actual play ok? and my planned play for flush coming in on turn ok? </font>

09-15-2005, 07:49 AM
Raise the flop for value. You get at least two more bets and if villian has a strong hand he will likely reraise you. Waiting for the turn to c/r is bad IMO. 1) A flush card or an ace might come up, scare everyone, and it will get checked through 2) CO will fold like he did in this hand.

thesharpie
09-15-2005, 07:50 AM
Preflop call is way easy. Check raise the flop.

And no, folding middle set on the river in a ~15BB pot just because someone raised when a flush card fell isn't good.

Edit: Nevermind I thought you was asking if you should fold for 1 bet in the river if CO raised the turn. You can probably fold for 2.

Vote4Pedro
09-15-2005, 07:54 AM
you should be completing w/ any pocket pur from the sb. C/R the flop and never "plan" on the turn completing the flush

AND...dont assume someone is on a flush draw just cause he called the flop

POKhER
09-15-2005, 07:54 AM
But if CO check raised when flush draw completed, then bet turn you'd call?

Would you call his check raise giving you 10:2/5:1 on the turn? Would you fold if he then betted river and you didnt boat up?

Id call turn(5:1 and we have 3.6:1 on boating up), call river and kick the cat?