View Full Version : ($27) Call on the bubble?
durron597
09-14-2005, 09:23 PM
Villian is playing extremely well. I think he is 2+2 just from his playing, not from any other evidence. Call here?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)
Hero (t1820)
BB (t2320)
UTG (t6375)
Button (t2985)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t6375</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ???.
Freudian
09-14-2005, 09:30 PM
No, 1600 chips should give you some FE. I'd prefer pushing with 32o UTG over calling here.
bluefeet
09-14-2005, 09:35 PM
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No, 1600 chips should give you some FE. I'd prefer pushing with 32o UTG over calling here.
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ditto
durron597
09-14-2005, 09:38 PM
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No, 1600 chips should give you some FE. I'd prefer pushing with 32o UTG over calling here.
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I am certain I am (barely) ahead of his range.
adanthar
09-14-2005, 09:44 PM
No, because if he is playing *extremely* well, you're getting a couple of folds coming up. Also, you miss out on the times the other two idiots call with A7o.
Freudian
09-14-2005, 09:44 PM
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No, 1600 chips should give you some FE. I'd prefer pushing with 32o UTG over calling here.
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I am certain I am (barely) ahead of his range.
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It is possible, but you have no way of winning chips in this hand without a showdown. Openpushing gives you a chance to do that.
bluefeet
09-14-2005, 09:53 PM
put your push-bot hat on for a second. we don't bubble push because we expect to be slight favorites - HOPING to get called. we push to pick up blinds...with either a condition being present that greatly reduces the chance of a call, or with a range of hands that have a chance of holding up.
you are SB here. you open the next pot...perhaps the next, or the next, or the next. you still have a tremendous amount of FE over the two mid-stacks.
i understand with your read on villian, he's likely pushing "any 2 here". still no justification IMO to call him with a sub-par (at best...AT par) hand. put you in BB w/ one less BB, maybe.
if i had to find an angle to side with you here, it would be that big-stack will be your SB/BB from your UTG/CO. life after this hand WOULD be made easier if the two mid-stacks were sitting together on your left.
ps. if it makes you feel any better, i have a hand i'll share with you. calling a "known solid players must push" with a hand i never would have considered doing so with otherwise. remind me to dig it out.
Edit: one to many "...or the next"s /images/graemlins/blush.gif
Freudian
09-14-2005, 10:03 PM
Did I just play against you on Party, Durron?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
CO (t1429)
Hero (t1175)
SB (t790)
BB (t857)
UTG (t1400)
MP1 (t589)
MP2 (t1760)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero goes all-in (t1175), BB calls (t857)
Flop: (t1814) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Turn: (t1814) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
River: (t1814) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Final Pot: t1814
Results:
SB doesn't show.
BB has Qd 6h (two pair, queens and tens).
UTG doesn't show.
MP1 doesn't show.
MP2 doesn't show.
CO doesn't show.
Hero has As 2s (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t1814.
Hehe playing extremely well, dunno about that Durron but thanks. /images/graemlins/blush.gif
Big stack, huge blinds against people who don't like 4th is a great position to be in.
Even though I was pushing about top 80% I don't think you can really call me here because of the small stack but I guess its just an annoying situation to be in.
I ran in thru SNGPT and it's saying you can only call top 10% of hands even when I'm pushing any 2 /images/graemlins/confused.gif
It's hard to defend against a maniac bigstack coming 3rd out of 4th, all you can really do is hope the shorty busts out before you get blinded away.
lastchance
09-14-2005, 10:50 PM
He's the smallest stack.
durron597
09-14-2005, 10:56 PM
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I ran in thru SNGPT and it's saying you can only call top 10% of hands even when I'm pushing any 2 /images/graemlins/confused.gif
It's hard to defend against a maniac bigstack coming 3rd out of 4th, all you can really do is hope the shorty busts out before you get blinded away.
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I thought I was in 3rd when I mentioned this hand to you at the table but the other guy had just doubled up like the hand before.
lol whoops /images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Still a fold though, you just need something stronger than Q8 to call, unless you knew that you had me dominated.
durron597
09-14-2005, 11:36 PM
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lol whoops /images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Still a fold though, you just need something stronger than Q8 to call, unless you knew that you had me dominated.
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I did have you dominated /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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