Micro-Limits Heads Up League - Interest check

[Paxosmotic]

-Credit for the idea goes to the University of Virginia and Fresno State (UC Davis)-

Here's what me and a few ML regulars have been bouncing off each other on AIM. Who's in?

It's the Micro-Limits Heads Up League (!!!, woo!, yeah!), which is staggering similar to college football. Everyone that frequents Micros is welcome to join. The league will consist of heads up matches between anyone who wants to play. I will rank all players based on a pretty simple and generic formula which takes into account strength of schedule and your win percentage. I'll post the rankings every Sunday, and we can spend the rest of the week playing matches and trash talking. All matches will be a 25BB freezeout on Stars .02/.04 unless the two parties agree otherwise. If you want to spend all month playing a 400BB freezeout at .5/1 for a single match, that's between the two of you.

Here's the schedule we're looking at:

-From now until September 30th, we take signups for the league.
-From October 1st until December 31st, anyone in the league can challenge anyone else in the league. Want to play the same person 33 times? Fine. Want to play 4 matches in 3 months? Fine.
-After December 31st, we'll seed up bowl games based on how everyone finishes the regular season and have final matches for pride.

So far the response on AIM has been hugely enthusiastic, and we've got two people dedicated to administering this league and making sure nothing gets missed. I'll post more information and details later, if the demand is high enough. I hope it is. My question to Micros is : who's interested?

[Rev. Good Will]

nice, i'm looking foward to it.

I just hope apathy doesn't take over like it did for CHUMP

[gharp]

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My question to Micros is : who's interested?

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Me.

[Vote4Pedro]

I guess I'll join

[Paxosmotic]

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I just hope apathy doesn't take over like it did for CHUMP

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I know where every last one of you live, I will [censored] hunt you down. I promise you, the two of us who are heading this up are very enthusiastic and will see it through. If individual people decide to drop out during it, or someone wants to join, we can bend not break to take care of anything. The train keeps a rollin baby.

[Russ McGinley]

Yes.

[POKhER]

Sounds fun! I'm up for .02/.04 heads up.
HU play sucks lol, but amusing.

[deception5]

I'm definitely looking to work on my heads up play, sign me up.

[TredWel]

I need to work on my HU play. I'm in.

[@bsolute_luck]

what does 25BB freezeout mean? and basically whomever i'm up against, we set a date during the week to play 1 match?

to answer the question: yes, i'm interested /images/graemlins/grin.gif
i just want to make sure i'm able to make the "matches" or whatever schedule there is.

[El Tigre]

don't know if i count as a "frequent visitor," but if u guys allow, im in. AIM: OUSooners617

[Russ McGinley]

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what does 25BB freezeout mean?

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You and I sit down with 25BB. When I take your 50 cents, the match is over. You can't add more money.

[SavageMiser]

Sign me up.

[deception5]

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what does 25BB freezeout mean? and basically whomever i'm up against, we set a date during the week to play 1 match?


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Believe this means both players sit with 25BB and play till one runs out of money.

[@bsolute_luck]

ah. thnx.

[lautzutao]

The heads-up experience in and of itself is reason enough to piss away my hard earned pennies...as long as the time is reasonable, I'm game.

AIM: Lautzutao

[MrWookie47]

I'll be in, but as the other poster said, I dread the apathy that came after two weeks of CHUMP. That's why I was in favor of a HU one day tourney on Stars.

[Paxosmotic]

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I'll be in, but as the other poster said, I dread the apathy that came after two weeks of CHUMP. That's why I was in favor of a HU one day tourney on Stars.

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I got you covered Boobs McBoobalot, don't worry.

[CourtJester]

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My question to Micros is : who's interested?

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Me.

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[macdaddy991]

Ill play

[chiachu]

sounds like fun, im in

[Walker]

Sign me up

[Aaron W.]

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-After December 31st, we'll seed up bowl games based on how everyone finishes the regular season and have final matches for pride.

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How are you going to do this?

Also, CHUMP fell apart because you had to wait for someone else to schedule matches. This format works better because you can just sit down and do it whenever you happen to catch somebody online.

What sites allow .02/.04 HU matches? I might be up for this.

[Paxosmotic]

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-After December 31st, we'll seed up bowl games based on how everyone finishes the regular season and have final matches for pride.

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How are you going to do this?

Also, CHUMP fell apart because you had to wait for someone else to schedule matches. This format works better because you can just sit down and do it whenever you happen to catch somebody online.

What sites allow .02/.04 HU matches? I might be up for this.

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Stars is the only site I know of. No rake, either, that's a big plus.

The bowl games will be decided arbitrarily. The championship bowl will be the predictable 1 vs 2 matchup. The rest will be based on the rankings, but if two people have already met during the regular season, or if there's a particularly interesting pairing, we'll set that up. For example, it could end up being:

1 vs 2
3 vs 5
4 vs 9
6 vs 8

Something like that. Just like the real bowl games.

[Aaron W.]

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What sites allow .02/.04 HU matches? I might be up for this.

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Stars is the only site I know of. No rake, either, that's a big plus.


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So... I have to find my way to opening another poker account, eh? Maybe...

[Vote4Pedro]

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So... I have to find my way to opening another poker account, eh? Maybe...

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As a bonus you'll be able to play in the Kiddie Pool II tournament

[Eeegah]

I'm in, but only if I can play naked.

[Weatherhead03]

I want in.

[Paxosmotic]

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I'm in, but only if I can play naked.

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I'll put you down as Eeegah + 1.

I count 20 'teams' so far, not bad at all. Still a lot of ML regulars that I'm hoping will stop by and join in.

[BatsShadow]

I have to think more about if I want to do this, but this is just to note that the start of this doesn't mean you last few CHUMP stragglers don't have to finish....

I WANT MY WINNINGS!!!!

[Nfinity]

I'm down.

[JKetzer]

I'm up for it.

[David04]

Sign me up.

[DavidC]

I'm in.

OOC, why not work the ratings just like chess ratings?

I don't so much care about the league aspect of this, but I'm looking to play some HU, and Oct would be a great month for this.

--Dave.

[Eeegah]

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OOC, why not work the ratings just like chess ratings?

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As in ELO ratings? We probably won't get enough participants for that to be particularly useful, but I can take a look and see if we can do something like that. While naked, of course.

[DavidC]

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OOC, why not work the ratings just like chess ratings?

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As in ELO ratings? We probably won't get enough participants for that to be particularly useful, but I can take a look and see if we can do something like that. While naked, of course.

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Of course. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Paxosmotic]

In keeping with the spirit of the college football such and such, me and Kurt decided ELO was a no go. The way we're going to do it is much simpler and is easily updatable. I'll explain

Everyone is input into a spreadsheet in EXCEL. Column A is your name, B is your wins, C is your losses, and D is your win percentage. Column E is where it gets fresh. Column E, for those of you who use excel, would look something like '=average(d3,d7,d6)' That would give you the average win percentages of the players in D3, D7, and D6. Your opponents. Then column F would be '=average(e3,e7,e6)' That gives you your opponent's opponent's win %. Those are then all averaged together with '=average(d1,d1,d1,d1,e1,e1,f1)', meaning your rating is based on 4 times your win %, 2 times your strength of schedule, and 1 times your opponent's strength of schedule.

It sounds ridiculous, but it is 1) incredibly easy to maintain, and 2) very accurate. During last year's college football season I used the same spreadsheet and found it to be frighteningly correct. It takes a few games to converge, but that's life.

Edit : Anyone (let's face it, just Eeegah) who wants to do ELO ratings can, and we'll find a way to work them in, but the basis for this is going to be the ranking system.

[Brain]

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In keeping with the spirit of the college football such and such, me and Kurt decided ELO was a no go. The way we're going to do it is much simpler and is easily updatable. I'll explain

Everyone is input into a spreadsheet in EXCEL. Column A is your name, B is your wins, C is your losses, and D is your win percentage. Column E is where it gets fresh. Column E, for those of you who use excel, would look something like '=average(d3,d7,d6)' That would give you the average win percentages of the players in D3, D7, and D6. Your opponents. Then column F would be '=average(e3,e7,e6)' That gives you your opponent's opponent's win %. Those are then all averaged together with '=average(d1,d1,d1,d1,e1,e1,f1)', meaning your rating is based on 4 times your win %, 2 times your strength of schedule, and 1 times your opponent's strength of schedule.

It sounds ridiculous, but it is 1) incredibly easy to maintain, and 2) very accurate. During last year's college football season I used the same spreadsheet and found it to be frighteningly correct. It takes a few games to converge, but that's life.

Edit : Anyone (let's face it, just Eeegah) who wants to do ELO ratings can, and we'll find a way to work them in, but the basis for this is going to be the ranking system.

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*coughBCSsuckscough* /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Vote4Pedro]

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*coughBCSsuckscough*

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Hey...atleast we left out the "Length of Match" category...

Hmmm...the more I think about it, the better it sounds

Count me in for this. My AIM name is igotsthechedda.

Don't laugh at the IM name, it is an inside joke. :-|

[bottomset]

I'm in

[trainslayer]

I wanna play.

Do I need one of them AIMy things?

I been practicing losing my money HU at 1/2. this oughta be a snap. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Paxosmotic]

Nah, PMs would work, just be open and receptive to matches. As always, the more ways to contact someone the better.

[adsman]

I tried to set up an AIM account for CHUMP but it didn't work cause I live in Europe, but if we can do it with PM's then I'm in.

[irishpint]

in

aol espezial, ill play any time for fun, too.

[tiltaholic]

i'll play if there's space for me.
i'm a HU donk!

[DavidC]

[ QUOTE ]
In keeping with the spirit of the college football such and such, me and Kurt decided ELO was a no go. The way we're going to do it is much simpler and is easily updatable. I'll explain

Everyone is input into a spreadsheet in EXCEL. Column A is your name, B is your wins, C is your losses, and D is your win percentage. Column E is where it gets fresh. Column E, for those of you who use excel, would look something like '=average(d3,d7,d6)' That would give you the average win percentages of the players in D3, D7, and D6. Your opponents. Then column F would be '=average(e3,e7,e6)' That gives you your opponent's opponent's win %. Those are then all averaged together with '=average(d1,d1,d1,d1,e1,e1,f1)', meaning your rating is based on 4 times your win %, 2 times your strength of schedule, and 1 times your opponent's strength of schedule.

It sounds ridiculous, but it is 1) incredibly easy to maintain, and 2) very accurate. During last year's college football season I used the same spreadsheet and found it to be frighteningly correct. It takes a few games to converge, but that's life.

Edit : Anyone (let's face it, just Eeegah) who wants to do ELO ratings can, and we'll find a way to work them in, but the basis for this is going to be the ranking system.

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Actually, you know what? Anything that keeps Eeegah's clothes on is just fine by me. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[car ramrod]

count me in
aim = des24999

[Disconnected]

I'll try. Disconn33 on AIM, pokerrow on GoogleTalk.

[detruncate]

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I have to think more about if I want to do this, but this is just to note that the start of this doesn't mean you last few CHUMP stragglers don't have to finish....

I WANT MY WINNINGS!!!!

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I'm on vacation and happily almost completely poker free at the moment, but as per my last post in the CHUMP thread I can probably make time for a match. Drop me a PM with your availability. I should be even easier to defeat than usual given my squishy pokerless brain and lack of anything resembling motivation. As if you needed easier.

[detruncate]

I may be up for this if I don't have to play too often. I'll have to see how I feel about poker when I get back home -- I love the idea of some more HU experience, but I'm gearing up for Operation Suck Less and am a bit anxious about adding more poker to an already difficult schedule.

[Paxosmotic]

Biggidy bizzump for all my homies in cell block 6.

[lautzutao]

I see someone got an upgrade to pinky...aww /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[SavageMiser]

Pink?

[Paxosmotic]

<font color="pink">JOIN THE LEAGUE!</font>

[thesharpie]

I'm down.

[deepsquat]

im in 4 sure

Can i join? My SN is atennis211.. sounds like a fun idea

[Rogue5]

I'm sure my HU play could use plenty of improvement.

I'm in

[CIncyHR]

New to the ML forum, usual place is HUSH. Id love to play!! Sign me up!

[benkath1]

OK, sounds g00t!

Are you going to set up a seperate website for this, with all the rules and standings and such?

King of the Kiddie Pool II? Have I missed something while I've been on vacation? Iza just thinkin of that again.

[Fantam]

Sign me up please /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I will wait to read what the rules for the league are.

this sounds like alot of fun, im game.

[ChickenFud]

Sounds like a good time, I'm in if there is room...

[CheeseBurger]

If there is still room I would love to take part in this.

[tor]

First off, I'm down for this league.

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-From October 1st until December 31st, anyone in the league can challenge anyone else in the league. Want to play the same person 33 times? Fine. Want to play 4 matches in 3 months? Fine.

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I don't forsee myself having this problem, but what do we do with the people who get challenged more than they can play? In many leagues/ladders the top rated guys are being gunned for and tend to get challenged a lot.

[Paxosmotic]

You're free to accept and decline challenges at your leisure, but with strength of schedule being an integral part of your ranking, if you're the #1 ranked guy one weak and decide to beat up on 3 of the lowest ranked people to pad your stats, don't be surprised to be ranked #2 or #3 the next. There's plusses and minuses to everything.

Just want everyone to know this is my last post before leaving Iraq. I'll be travelling back to America the next few days, at which point I'll post rules and further clarification. I'm looking forward to this, should be a grand old time. Enjoy yourself.

[monix]

I'm in.

[PygmyHero]

I just wanted to say that I would also be interested in this. I don't read everything on this forum so I have put this thread in my favorites so I don't miss any updates. If you start a new thread with more information please post a link to it in this thread.

Thank you for your efforts in organizing this. I think it's a great idea and I am looking forward to the microlimit forum draining my bankroll one dollar at a time.

[zuluking]

I've never played on PS before. If there is a sign-up bonus that I can whore at the same time, then I'm in too. Anyone know of one?

zulu

[steelcmg]

yea ill give this a try looking to find flaws in my game.

[PygmyHero]

No sign up bonus. They occasionally offer reloads in the neighborhood of 20% up to $120 (need a $600 deposit to max it). These bonuses stack and never expire, and as you can withdraw your money 48 hours later you should take advantage of every one if your roll can withstand it.

You'll probably only need a few bucks for the HU tourney, and it won't disqualify you from any future bonus, so you should still seriously consider doing this.

By the way, the last bonus was earlier this month and they've had 2 in the past 3 or so months. See BW for more info.

[Matt Jenko]

go on then. should be good. i'm in. only issue is i'm uk based so times could be tricky. if there enough interested european 2+2ers up for it then we could have a separate one.

I'm interested.

AIM: khuigens1

[aces_dad]

I was searching the classified and noticed there are some sites which will give goodies like HOH or other poker books for signing up through them. I haven't yet signed up there but am considering it to play this tourney.

[Aaron W.]

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-From now until September 30th, we take signups for the league.
-From October 1st until December 31st, anyone in the league can challenge anyone else in the league. Want to play the same person 33 times? Fine. Want to play 4 matches in 3 months? Fine.
-After December 31st, we'll seed up bowl games based on how everyone finishes the regular season and have final matches for pride.

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Are we going to make the October 1 start date, or will it need to be bumped backwards a week or so for "administrative purposes"?

[aces_dad]

I'm interested. Don't have AIM though. Interested to see how many people are signed up.

[JunkHead]

I'm in.
AIM = JunkHead1966


JunkHead

[2+2 Junkie]

I'm interested

[imported_CaseClosed326]

I'm interested.

[TheHammer24]

I typically post is SS but I hang out here every now and then. I'll play -- AIM Handle is Shaha23, but you are probably better of PMing me.

[PygmyHero]

I'm in. PM me.

[Guruman]

I suck but I'm in. pm me.

I'm interested, but I need to open an acct. Tell me if this is inappropriate.

Can anyone swap me $10 on Poker Stars for $10 on Full Tilt?