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09-14-2005, 04:41 PM
Villian is 30/15/1, and I have no other reads.

What's my move on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero ...

sweetjazz
09-14-2005, 04:49 PM
This is an easy fold for me. You don't have the odds to draw to improve your hand and you don't want to go to showdown with A high when there are two broadway cards on board against a player who is somewhat tight and has shown aggression on the flop.

luckyharr
09-14-2005, 04:56 PM
I don't think it's an easy fold. If Hero's Ace outs are good, he has 7 outs which gives him barely enough for a call.

JoshuaD
09-14-2005, 04:59 PM
I'm calling here, folding the river UI. Betting an A or Q, C/R'ing a T.

09-14-2005, 05:01 PM
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I'm calling here, folding the river UI. Betting an A or Q, C/R'ing a T.

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Are you bet/folding the Ace or bet/calling?

sweetjazz
09-14-2005, 05:04 PM
Yeah, I think I was discounting too much for the possibility that your A might not be an out. I think KJ, AJ, and QT are all possibilities for villain, given the rather nonspecific read. But they are not likely enough to worry too too much about them. Plus, your Q outs might be good too, as I imagine a lot of 3/6 30/15s would raise the flop with a J to "see where they are at". You have reverse implied odds with your A outs (and your Q outs as well), but peeling here is probably slightly +EV.

JoshuaD
09-14-2005, 05:05 PM
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I'm calling here, folding the river UI. Betting an A or Q, C/R'ing a T.

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Are you bet/folding the Ace or bet/calling?

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bet/folding it. The pot's small and I'm broadcasting to the world that I just spiked my A. If he's got the moxy to raise that with a weaker pair he can have my pot.

jt1
09-14-2005, 06:02 PM
Unless you count all your aces as good this is an easy fold. Why are you counting them all good?

wackjob
09-14-2005, 06:17 PM
I look to improve on the river &amp; fold if I don't.

jt1
09-14-2005, 07:03 PM
Yea, i forgot to count the Queens. It's still extremely close, due to reverse implied. I guess it's definitely plus ev if you counter image into the equation.