What's your move here? 10+1

I intended to check raise or call a raise. Not sure if that is a good idea. Also, after the second all in perhaps I should have had warning bells and folded?

#Game No : 2709578221
***** Hand History for Game 2709578221 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15726501 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, September 14, 11:12:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 35029 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 5: skembes ( $415 )
Seat 9: goldyfishy ( $900 )
Seat 6: CaptainVic7 ( $1355 )
Seat 2: kaybird ( $930 )
Seat 8: woody114 ( $715 )
Seat 7: mjkdd ( $1565 )
Seat 10: THEBIGGSKI ( $425 )
Seat 3: paul_nj ( $475 )
Seat 1: endowedone ( $1220 )
Trny:15726501 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to goldyfishy [ Qc Qs ]
CaptainVic7 folds.
mjkdd folds.
woody114 folds.
goldyfishy raises [150].
THEBIGGSKI folds.
endowedone calls [150].
kaybird calls [150].
paul_nj folds.
skembes folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Qh, Js ]
goldyfishy checks.
endowedone is all-In [1070]
>You have options at Table 11074 Table!.
kaybird is all-In [780]
goldyfishy is all-In [750]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
goldyfishy shows [ Qc, Qs ] three of a kind, queens.
endowedone shows [ Ad, Ks ] a pair of kings.
kaybird shows [ As, Td ] a straight, ten to ace.
endowedone wins 290 chips from side pot #2 with a pair of kings.
kaybird wins 60 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
kaybird wins 2775 chips from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
goldyfishy finished in ninth place.
goldyfishy has left the table.
Game #2709579799 starts.

[bluefeet]

Meh...you did fine. All your chips are going in on this flop, one way or the other - stuff happens

Ps. I raise a little more PF - especially w/QQ...knowing an A-rag might feel "priced in" to a 3x with a caller or two.

I was first into the pot, so I had no idea that I'd get two callers. Should I still raise about 200?

[bluefeet]

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I was first into the pot

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...exactly. Opening in your position could have represent many hands not nearly as good as QQ. 200 is pretty standard IMO - a little more had you had a limper in front.

Thanks for the comments.

Are you saying 200 is a standard raise for QQ or for any raising hand? I've been usually following the 3x BB rule so far.

[niquewon]

Your play was fine, there is no way on earth I'd lay down a set of queens in this spot especially in an $11.

[bluefeet]

4x is pretty standard, unopened w/QQ. having said that, fixing a "standard" for all raising hands isn't wise. some 2.5x, some 5x, some 3x, some min. generally if it's already opened, and you did in fact have a raising hand, than yes...raise more. but what to raise, where, with what hands...would take more room than this reply would allow (eh, probably not, but you get the idea).

consider the strength of your hand, the holdings others might call your raise with, and just as importantly - your plan post-flop. as YOUR RAISE is the key factor in the size of the pot you'll be navigating on the flop.

in later position, opening for a raise with a variety of hands is optimal simply because of position...allowing you to represent a great number of flops. some raises purposely encourage calls from lessor hands. just as often, you're looking to thin the crowd. having chips to spend, you might raise a great drawing hand simply to build the pot if/when you hit the flop.

i'm sure i'm failing to cover the fast majority of considerations. but DO always have your attack/retreat plan in mind before you raise - considering how to react to a PF reraise, and your plan for the flop.

with too many a donk playing A anything, your raise here should most certainly be to try and thin the crowd. 3x doesn't quite do it w/ 5 to act behind.

'nough said i guess. i think you'll find HOHI (Harrington on Hold'em) benificial, if you find yourself struggling with starting hand requirements/PF raise considerations...a pretty good read in that respect.

good luck!

Thanks for that post. I've ordered HOH 1&2 and they're coming in the mail. I've started thinking about some of those considerations when raising. However, the flip side is that I don't want to give my hand away with my raise. Of course, at the 10+1's that's probably not that much of an issue due to the skill level of the players and the sheer number of players. There's probably more advantage to adjusting raises for myself than any advantage lost through communicating my hand at the 10+1's.