What's 5/10 like?

[whlinn]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but my search effort yielded nothing. I moved up to 3/6 about a week ago, have absolutely destroyed it (run of good luck) and now have the required roll to go to 5/10. Comments on differences in play between it and what I'm likely used to? Or should I stay and get more hands in at 3/6? Sorry don't have more posts, enjoy reading more than posting.

[brettbrettr]

Search better.

[Roland19]

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I moved up to 3/6 about a week ago, have absolutely destroyed it (run of good luck) and now have the required roll to go to 5/10.

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If this is true, why would you want to move up to 5/10? You aren't a proven winner at 3/6 yet, and 5/10 is substantially tougher. Play more hands, then reevaluate.

[ebranig]

5/10 is extremely difficult and all the players have bad luck at 5/10-- stay away. Jump to 10/20.

[whlinn]

My bankroll is well short of 10/20, but I thank you for your sarcastic response.

[Wada]

I really do not think he was being sarcastic. I have read this before that 5/10 is difficult and players find that 10/20 is a lot easier. I think he was being sincere.

[whlinn]

If that's the case I apologize. Gonna have to make some more money before I go to 10/20 though. My natural instinct is always to stay. I usually follow a 500 X BB rule and I know I probably should stay at 3/6 a while longer.

How is that possible? Alot of rich people like to throw away their money at the highest rate possible?

[fooz]

Give it a try. Take some shots at it. You'll find lots of rocks, so table selection becomes VERY VERY important.

A lot of folks take the short-handed route to get past 5/10, but you'll definitely need a bigger roll for that too.

[SeaEagle]

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How is that possible? Alot of rich people like to throw away their money at the highest rate possible?

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It's not. Nobody really thinks 10/20 is easier than 5/10 the way that nobody really thinks 3/6 is easier than 2/4. Although I have seen both opinions espoused here.

To the OP: 5/10 is harder than 3/6, but there's no way to quantify, nor accurately describe, the difference - there are just less bad players and more good players. If you have the bankroll, you might want to take a shot and see if you think you're good enough to compete at that level.

[sy_or_bust]

10/20 used to be a bit looser than 5/10, and often still is. It is much more aggressive though. Mixed opinions on this.

To the OP: 5/10 is a good game these days. If you have the bankroll and feel comfortable with your game, play it. But it is much more difficult than 3/6, which you may not even be able to beat. If you fear ruin, don't move up until you feel a comfortable winner at 3/6.

[shant]

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10/20 used to be a bit looser than 5/10, and often still is.

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That was before everyone started posting on here about how soft the 10/20 is.

[flair1239]

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I really do not think he was being sarcastic. I have read this before that 5/10 is difficult and players find that 10/20 is a lot easier. I think he was being sincere.

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The rake hits you a lot harder at 5/10 then it does at 10/20.

I have not looked at the figure in a while but 1.75BB/100 sounds about right to me.

Can figure it out with some simple math, but I don't have time right now.

But I would not be suprised if an average 5/10 player discovered his BB/100 WR was a little higher at 10/20, then at 5/10.

[brettbrettr]

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Nobody really thinks 10/20 is easier than 5/10 the way that nobody really thinks 3/6 is easier than 2/4.

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I *really* think 10/20 is easier than 5/10.

[sfer]

Are you still playing 2/4 and berating bad players like me and Josh?

[Hoi Polloi]

Party 5/10:
-- few tables so you're up against the same players all the time (good and bad)
-- pre-flop is raised >80% of the time
-- < 4 to the flop >80% (50% HU maybe?)
-- lots of HU play against/in blinds

That's a typical table in my <10k hand experience in the last month. The game is beatable but you have to play tight, aggressive and have a solid game in the blinds.

[Argus]

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Party 5/10:
-- few tables so you're up against the same players all the time (good and bad)
-- pre-flop is raised &gt;80% of the time
-- &lt; 4 to the flop &gt;80% (50% HU maybe?)
-- lots of HU play against/in blinds

That's a typical table in my &lt;10k hand experience in the last month. The game is beatable but you have to play tight, aggressive and have a solid game in the blinds.

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This is a pretty accurate assessment in my experience. I also have about 10k hands at 5/10 and didn't find it too hard. I didn't find it too easy either.

Make sure to practice seat selection, taking particular care about your relative position. Even the good tables have 3-6 TAGs, so having them on your left and the loose players on your right can make a real difference.

[flair1239]

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Party 5/10:
-- few tables so you're up against the same players all the time (good and bad)
-- pre-flop is raised &gt;80% of the time
-- &lt; 4 to the flop &gt;80% (50% HU maybe?)
-- lots of HU play against/in blinds

That's a typical table in my &lt;10k hand experience in the last month. The game is beatable but you have to play tight, aggressive and have a solid game in the blinds.

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It can seem like it is raised PF 80% of the time, but about 60% is more accurate.

[ebranig]

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I have read this before that 5/10 is difficult and players find that 10/20 is a lot easier. I think he was being sincere.

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I was being sarcastic. Very sarcastic. As you progress in limits the game gets more difficult. Always. No exceptions.

[brettbrettr]

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As you progress in limits the game gets more difficult. Always. No exceptions.

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Ummm, wrong.

[Supdog42]

I agree. When I moved to 5/10, it was a disaster. I moved to 10/20 and have been consistently winning.

[PokerBob]

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I'm sure this has been asked before, but my search effort yielded nothing. I moved up to 3/6 about a week ago, have absolutely destroyed it (run of good luck) and now have the required roll to go to 5/10. Comments on differences in play between it and what I'm likely used to? Or should I stay and get more hands in at 3/6? Sorry don't have more posts, enjoy reading more than posting.

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learn to play short handed. in aggressive games you need to play well from the blinds, and also many pots are HU or 3-ways. SH will teach you this. hopefully.

[alul]

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It can seem like it is raised PF 80% of the time, but about 60% is more accurate.

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Hmmm, my numbers show someting like 9. How can you always find the tables full of maniacs?

[brettbrettr]

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It can seem like it is raised PF 80% of the time, but about 60% is more accurate.

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Hmmm, my numbers show someting like 9. How can you always find the tables full of maniacs?

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Not average PFR per player. He's saying *someone* at the table raises pre-flop 60% of the time.

[Wada]

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As you progress in limits the game gets more difficult. Always. No exceptions.

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Ummm, wrong.

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I agree. I couldnt believe that 1/2 was harder than 2/4 when I made the step up from .5/1 - online. And even in live play I could not believe that I found tighter and better players at 4/8 than 10/20.

It could be a general rule that you find better players as you move up in limits, but there will always be bad players at all limits, which would tend to make some games easier than others.

[Wada]

I guess the OP can really thank you for the sarcastic response then.

I disagree with you. Its not always the case that a higher limit will be harder than a lower limit, it "just depends."

For instance the 1/2 on Party. the 6 max games were easier to beat than the full games, only due to finding more maniacs at the 6 max games. I dont know what its like now since I havent played online a long time, but I do recall several months ago I had a harder time at 1/2 full than I did at 2/4 full. 1/2 was full of rocks and tigher players than 2/4 was.

[gh9801]

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I'm sure this has been asked before, but my search effort yielded nothing. I moved up to 3/6 about a week ago, have absolutely destroyed it (run of good luck) and now have the required roll to go to 5/10. Comments on differences in play between it and what I'm likely used to? Or should I stay and get more hands in at 3/6? Sorry don't have more posts, enjoy reading more than posting.

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5/10 is less weak tight, more aggresive, and has much more variance. A lot more multitabling TAGs/rocks. There are a few weak spots but there are better games out there

[TheHip41]

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I'm sure this has been asked before, but my search effort yielded nothing. I moved up to 3/6 about a week ago, have absolutely destroyed it (run of good luck) and now have the required roll to go to 5/10. Comments on differences in play between it and what I'm likely used to? Or should I stay and get more hands in at 3/6? Sorry don't have more posts, enjoy reading more than posting.

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Just move to 30-60, you will lose your BR faster that way, save you some time.

Serioulsy, play a decent amount of hands at 3-6. Just cause you played 1 week = 10,000 hands doesn't mean anything. I've been break even over 15,000 hands at 2-4 and I'm a long term winner. Don't move till 5-10 until you can handle the huge swings.

[lozen]

Other end of the spectrum I was doing well at 5/10 and moveded down to 3/6 as people were saying how bad the players were. One bad week of bad beat after bad beat and I may have to move back up to build my bankroll /images/graemlins/smile.gif Man the chasing that goes on in 3/6 blew me away.

[krubban]

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Other end of the spectrum I was doing well at 5/10 and moveded down to 3/6 as people were saying how bad the players were. One bad week of bad beat after bad beat and I may have to move back up to build my bankroll /images/graemlins/smile.gif Man the chasing that goes on in 3/6 blew me away.

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Aye, gotta hate the chasers. Every once in a while i have to play a few orbits at 30/60 to rebuild after the endless bad beats given by the chasers.
Luckily people respect my bets and raises at the higher limits so winning there is not a problem.

[TimM]

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I *really* think 10/20 is easier than 5/10.

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5/10 players definitely pay off on the big streets more consistently than 10/20 players.