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Sykes
09-14-2005, 01:13 AM
If you have a 35% equity on the flop; How many people do you need to call your cap/all-in to make it +EV?

Luzion
09-14-2005, 01:52 AM
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If you have a 35% equity on the flop; How many people do you need to call your cap/all-in to make it +EV?

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You are gonna have to specify if this is limit, nl (and what size your stack and other people stack is) and the pot size on the flop.

Sykes
09-14-2005, 05:26 AM
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If you have a 35% equity on the flop; How many people do you need to call your cap/all-in to make it +EV?

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You are gonna have to specify if this is limit, nl (and what size your stack and other people stack is) and the pot size on the flop.

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Does it matter?

Let's say it's limit

09-14-2005, 11:18 AM
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If you have a 35% equity on the flop; How many people do you need to call your cap/all-in to make it +EV?

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Two.

This is pretty straightforward stuff:
If equity*players (including you) > 1 then raising has +EV.
So so if 1/equity<players then the move has +EV
35%=.35 so
The number of players must be larger than 1/.35 which is just under 3.
With three players (two callers), every dollar you raise should make you five cents.

Sykes
09-14-2005, 05:29 PM
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If you have a 35% equity on the flop; How many people do you need to call your cap/all-in to make it +EV?

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Two.

This is pretty straightforward stuff:
If equity*players (including you) > 1 then raising has +EV.
So so if 1/equity<players then the move has +EV
35%=.35 so
The number of players must be larger than 1/.35 which is just under 3.
With three players (two callers), every dollar you raise should make you five cents.

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Awesome, this is what I thought also, just wanted to make sure.

Fun fact: Raising with 88 on a 8d 6s 5s flop is correct with 2 callers even if one of them shows you 97 (as long as 97 is not 9s 7s). Also, the other person could have the nutflush draw and it'd still be +EV to raise.

Mr. Curious
09-14-2005, 07:00 PM
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Fun fact: Raising with 88 on a 8d 6s 5s flop is correct with 2 callers even if one of them shows you 97 (as long as 97 is not 9s 7s). Also, the other person could have the nutflush draw and it'd still be +EV to raise.

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Interesting...

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1219547
pokenum -h 8c 8s - as js - 7c 9c -- 8d 6s 5s
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing 6s 5s 8d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 8c 323 35.77 576 63.79 4 0.44 0.359
As Js 228 25.25 671 74.31 4 0.44 0.254
9c 7c 348 38.54 551 61.02 4 0.44 0.387

09-14-2005, 11:15 PM
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Fun fact: Raising with 88 on a 8d 6s 5s flop is correct with 2 callers even if one of them shows you 97 (as long as 97 is not 9s 7s). Also, the other person could have the nutflush draw and it'd still be +EV to raise.

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Yeah, you'll get a boat or better almost 40% of the time.