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Percula
09-14-2005, 12:12 AM
Live private game with some very good players. The blinds are 10/20 but there is no cap and it plays alot more like a 100/200 game.

I bought in short $5k (taking a shot at the big game again) and have been playing for about 7 hours at this point. I nut peddled until I was up to about $18k, where I changed gears and got TAG/LAG'ish. I have not shown down one hand that wasn't the nuts, second or third nuts all session.

9 handed, I am UTG+2 with AA and about $23k, villian is on the button with ~$50k and is a name player (dont ask I can tell). He is tricky, aggressive and running very good since the WSOP. I have seen him make some BIG moves with air and the nuts...

PF: folds to me, I make the table standard raise of 200, folds to the button who smooth calls, blinds fold.

Flop: 555, I lead for $600, villian pops it to $2500. I tank, his flat call from the button could be any two cards including the case 5, I can not put him on a hand but have a hunch he has a big pair (but nothing too strong of a read/feeling here), and for lack of a better line call.

Turn: K, I check, he checks. I was looking for a C/R here, but he did not play along...

River: K, I tank and lead with $3500, villian is insta AI. The little voice in the back of my mind is saying "he has queens, your hand is good".

Hero?

jck8
09-14-2005, 12:23 AM
Hero?

wakes up from his little dream

lapoker17
09-14-2005, 12:23 AM
this should be good.

cero_z
09-14-2005, 12:24 AM
Hi Percula,

This sounds like a frickin' awesome experience. As for whether your hand is good, who the hell knows better than you in this spot? You can only beat a bluff here, though I suppose you know that. Don't you think he makes this play with quads, knowing it's tough to fold a K here? Of course, he made a nice flop raise if he has quads. I believe he could've read you for a very big pair pre-flop, and thought you might bite. On the info you've given, I definitely fold on the river, though I do like to listen to the little voice as well.

I really don't know why you bet the river, though. Checking with the intention of calling does a lot better here, I think, and he's unlikely to push with any hand (stone bluff through nuts) in that event, so you don't have to decide whether to catch a WCP's bluff for all your chips.

You're in a bad spot here, because the table probably still thinks you're playing very tightly. Thus, he "knows" you can't have a 5, but he obviously can have any 2 cards to call a $200 open-raise when he covers your 23k.

I hope that it worked out, and barring that, I hope you learned some valuable stuff.

cero_z
09-14-2005, 12:29 AM
Hi P,

Also, I just read some of your other posts, and I recommend you ask the folks at this private game to get it out of the mud. If you're beating the micro-limits online, you ought to be ready for at least 200-400 NL; see if they'll bump it up and stop wasting your time. And great call, I assume.

Percula
09-14-2005, 12:42 AM
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Hi P,

Also, I just read some of your other posts, and I recommend you ask the folks at this private game to get it out of the mud. If you're beating the micro-limits online, you ought to be ready for at least 200-400 NL; see if they'll bump it up and stop wasting your time. And great call, I assume.

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I play mostly live here in AZ, the land of no NL. I have had a great run playing the MTT and 5-150 spread limit here. I ran a $2k roll up to over $30k since the fisrt of the year. The last few weeks I have been running very badly or playing very baddly and decided to get back online at the bottom and "learn poker" over again.

HoldEmKillah
09-14-2005, 12:42 AM
LMFAO! Who plays micros then posts this story? I mean really? wtf?

BobboFitos
09-14-2005, 01:18 AM
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LMFAO! Who plays micros then posts this story? I mean really? wtf?

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lololol i went to vegas and beat the 4k/8k game to the tune of 1/2 mil. what soft spots.

MTBlue
09-14-2005, 03:26 AM
I think I call this bet if the villain knows that I wouldn't call his flop raise with overcards. Its an excellent move on the villains part b/c if you didn't call with overs there are only two hands that aren't a chop are Quad Kings and AA. This makes this an excellent place to be bully at very low risk. If he woke up with a k or a 5 that sucks but I think given the pot odds you got to call.

Lucky
09-14-2005, 04:02 AM
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LMFAO! Who plays micros then posts this story? I mean really? wtf?

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Well, at least we know he's less likely to be a gambling addict. Kudos if you can concentrate on .15/.30 cent NL after playing KGB. While you may be a drastic person about relearning poker, etc. maybe play some NL 200 at party.

Dubra
09-14-2005, 04:24 PM
reults?

SpeakEasy
09-14-2005, 06:33 PM
Call.

Although I may be assigning too much meaning to this, it reads as if you paused on the river ("I tank") before you bet. My guess is that you may have looked weak/indecisive to him on how to bet the chopped pot...

09-14-2005, 07:24 PM
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Live private game with some very good players. The blinds are 10/20 but there is no cap and it plays alot more like a 100/200 game.

I bought in short $5k (taking a shot at the big game again) and have been playing for about 7 hours at this point. I nut peddled until I was up to about $18k, where I changed gears and got TAG/LAG'ish. I have not shown down one hand that wasn't the nuts, second or third nuts all session.

9 handed, I am UTG+2 with AA and about $23k, villian is on the button with ~$50k and is a name player (dont ask I can tell). He is tricky, aggressive and running very good since the WSOP. I have seen him make some BIG moves with air and the nuts...

PF: folds to me, I make the table standard raise of 200, folds to the button who smooth calls, blinds fold.

Flop: 555, I lead for $600, villian pops it to $2500. I tank, his flat call from the button could be any two cards including the case 5, I can not put him on a hand but have a hunch he has a big pair (but nothing too strong of a read/feeling here), and for lack of a better line call.

Turn: K, I check, he checks. I was looking for a C/R here, but he did not play along...

River: K, I tank and lead with $3500, villian is insta AI. The little voice in the back of my mind is saying "he has queens, your hand is good".

Hero?

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