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The once and future king
09-13-2005, 08:17 AM
I see alot of Christians are talking about this is another thread.

However isnt this an absurd concept? If something happens surely it is because it is the will of God in the first instance. Why would he will something to happen then intervene in it after the fact?

Georgia Avenue
09-13-2005, 09:26 AM
There are certainly some logical conundrums associated with this concept, but I don't think it's absurd on its face. One of the basic tenets of Christianity (and many religions similarly) is that people (who have free will) have to
A. Receive signs from God…&
B. Believe them…
in order to become saved. These are rarely: direct, knocking you off yr horse type stuff and more often: found twenty dollars in the gutter so you can buy medicine sortathing.

So the universe—God’s Windup Toy Creation—causes a bad situation to occur and then God provides a miracle to allow the person to choose to believe that he was saved by God. Phew. Lotta work for just one soul, but, as they say in the American Express commercials: Omnipotence has its privileges…

I’m sure the predestination crowd has other ideas, but, this is my .5 Gnostic take on the matter.