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EMcWilliams
09-12-2005, 08:46 PM
Does anyone happen to know the real situation in the Superdome? What the plan was? Was there food and such for most, just a select few that didnt happen to get any or they did not anticipate the volume nad the whole situation got blown out of proportion.

cardcounter0
09-12-2005, 08:56 PM
They had a big party. There was a big cake with lots of candles and everyone had ice cream afterwards. Door prizes were given away and they had a raffle for some of the infants that died due to dehydration.

A real good time was had by almost everyone!

Broken Glass Can
09-12-2005, 09:05 PM
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and the Saints won the game. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

EMcWilliams
09-12-2005, 09:18 PM
I was honestly hoping that someone knew someone that had to go through the ordeal and could give a first hand account. Guess not.

SheetWise
09-12-2005, 09:42 PM
The published plan had the Superdome as a planned refuge for those left or stuck in the city. Following the plan, the mayor told those who could not get out to go to the Superdome. The city failed to plan for food, water, and sanitation facilities at the refuge -- because of this, people wanted to leave. Because of the looting in the city, officials would not let them leave. Red Cross wanted to bring in all the stuff the city forgot to provision. State wouldn't let them bring supplies in because it would encourage more people to go there -- and the state wanted to get those there out. State had no plan to get them out. The plan may need some work.

One reason the Astrodome was able to accept people immediately is because in the Texas plan the Astrodome is the refuge of last resort for Galveston and SE Harris Co. -- the Astrodome was already provisioned with food, bottled water, cots, generators, fuel, portable sanitation units, and all of the other things reasonable people might expect to need after a hurricane.

Ed Miller
09-13-2005, 01:39 AM
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I was honestly hoping that someone knew someone that had to go through the ordeal and could give a first hand account. Guess not.

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That would be a second hand account.

Cyrus
09-13-2005, 02:46 AM
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I was honestly hoping that someone knew someone that had to go through the ordeal and could give a first hand account.

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That would be a second hand account.

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Is that what they call, in polling parlance, a gimmick account ?

xniNja
09-13-2005, 02:59 AM
Your picture almost passes for a ninja, but not quite.

LittleOldLady
09-13-2005, 02:41 PM
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The published plan had the Superdome as a planned refuge for those left or stuck in the city. Following the plan, the mayor told those who could not get out to go to the Superdome. The city failed to plan for food, water, and sanitation facilities at the refuge -- because of this, people wanted to leave. Because of the looting in the city, officials would not let them leave. Red Cross wanted to bring in all the stuff the city forgot to provision. State wouldn't let them bring supplies in because it would encourage more people to go there -- and the state wanted to get those there out. State had no plan to get them out. The plan may need some work.

One reason the Astrodome was able to accept people immediately is because in the Texas plan the Astrodome is the refuge of last resort for Galveston and SE Harris Co. -- the Astrodome was already provisioned with food, bottled water, cots, generators, fuel, portable sanitation units, and all of the other things reasonable people might expect to need after a hurricane.

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Actually 18-wheelers with food and water went to the superdome ahead of time. People were told that the superdome was the shelter of last resort and that they would likely be without power and other basics. They were also asked to bring their own food, water, bedding, diapers, medications, and other supplies as if they were going camping. Many of them did; others didn't. Before the storm people who entered the dome were checked for guns and drugs. After the storm as survivors straggled in, security was apparently non-existent. I was in Baton Rouge by that time, listening to local tv coverage which was way different from the national coverage.

The reason that the Astrodome is stocked with survival supplies and the superdome isn't is that a few years ago, the Red Cross (the provider of shelters) stopped opening/provisioning shelters south of I-12. Hence the superdome never was in condition to provide more than a roof over people's heads (and the roof failed).

The Convention Center was in even worse shape because it was not even a designated shelter of last resort, and people just drifted there on their own. It had no provisions at all.

BCPVP
09-13-2005, 02:45 PM
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The reason that the Astrodome is stocked with survival supplies and the superdome isn't is that a few years ago, the Red Cross (the provider of shelters) stopped opening/provisioning shelters south of I-12.

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Wasn't this was because the Red Cross didn't want its volunteers to be flooded and trapped thereby requiring assistance of their own? I thought I read that somewhere...

09-13-2005, 06:57 PM
I don't mean to sound like a know it all... but I live in CA.

And, for as long as I can remember... I've been told to have an earthquake kit ready. In 1st-6th grade, we had an awareness day once a year focusing on how to prepare and survive "the big one".

A ton of family I know keep a 55 gallon drum in their garage filled with emergency supplies and such.

News channels are constantly running specials and stories about how to prepare.

I would imagine they do the same thing in Hurrican areas? Am I way of base here?

Triumph36
09-13-2005, 07:27 PM
You do know that the people most affected by this don't have garages, right?

This disaster has brought to light the extreme poverty in which some Americans live - and which most Americans are content to ignore.

SheetWise
09-13-2005, 07:43 PM
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You do know that the people most affected by this don't have garages, right?

This disaster has brought to light the extreme poverty in which some Americans live - and which most Americans are content to ignore.

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Give it up already. How many people in NYC have garages?

09-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Why does poverty always trump preparedness and/or intelligence.

I hate that arguement... oh.... they are poor so they obviously couldn't put aside one week of basic necessities? WTF.

I've lived on noodles and mac & cheese at times when I was broke... doesn't mean I was stupid and helpless at the time.