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_Kevin_
09-12-2005, 07:32 PM
MP3 here is an unknown. I've only see 3 hands with nothing I've noted. I have about 350 hands against CO and he is a tight-passive-neutral player. He has only raised 4% of the hands PF. He is aggressive with good hands but doesn't seem to bluff (or at least very rarely). Other than being a little too passive, he is a quality player.

Is the cap OK here or should I just have called? As everyone knows the LRR can be anything from suited trash to a monster pair. I felt like capping may give me the initiative and I probably had an equity advantage on the field. Most importantly, is my flop fold reasonable? I'm still not ready to give MP3 credit for a monster. I would definitely two bet him. My concern is the 2 bet from CO into a preflop capper. My read says he must have a monster. QJs, 99, TT all seem likely and two pair is possible but less likely (I don't think he'd 2 bet that flop with 2 pair). I'm trying to be more aware of reads and putting people on hands. I realize I'm getting huge odds but I feel like I'm likely drawing very thin against CO(probably need runner-runner) and I could be facing a 3bet and a cap so I folded.

Assuming someone wants to go forward, what is your plan?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds, ....

btspider
09-12-2005, 08:47 PM
cap good, fold bad.

Jarcon
09-12-2005, 10:22 PM
I think pot is too big to fold, I would reraise it.

09-13-2005, 12:10 AM
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I think pot is too big to fold, I would reraise it.

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Solovon
09-13-2005, 01:01 AM
When you cap with AK before the flop, what else do you want to hit? You hit your top pair, now you need to protect your hand. You're probably good on the flop, but it's a scary one and one or more opponents could have strong draws. CO could easily have hands like KJ /images/graemlins/club.gif, AT /images/graemlins/club.gif, or even 78 /images/graemlins/club.gif. Get your money in and make people pay for the draws. If you're beat by 2 pair or a set, CO will probably let you know before the river.

Eeegah
09-13-2005, 01:06 AM
I 3-bet and hope it's capped.

kirkt
09-13-2005, 01:19 AM
Why fold?

09-13-2005, 01:31 AM
Play aggressively in big pots, you put in your preflop cap and now you hit your hand, 3-bet that shiz.

TomBrooks
09-13-2005, 02:10 AM
Your only behind to AA and KK. I don't fold that hand. Pot is very big and your getting 11:1, 12:1 if MP2 stays in. CO could be raising with a worse King or a King and Flush or Straight Draw or some other stuff like that. CO might be correct to raise AT there to knock out Jacks and Queens.

PS: I don't like capping AK preflop. AKs - maybe.

LoaferGee12
09-13-2005, 02:28 AM
Eek, this fold is baaad. 3-bet and go from there. If capped and led in to, then you can go in to go call down.

Highn
09-13-2005, 03:23 AM
I'de 3-bet it on the flop.

_Kevin_
09-13-2005, 08:15 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I wasn't sure I liked my fold (which is why I posted it) even though I really felt like I was way behind to CO.

I felt like I either had to 3 bet or fold (calling seemed the absolute worst thing I could do). Based on the read, I'm still not sure I like 3 betting this guy. In this case I was right (he had QJs for the flopped straight) but I really want to understand the correct play not just lose less money in this one case.

btspider
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
Does anyone like a flop cold-call?

Double check suits, connectedness, and relative position to see some reasons why.