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EMcWilliams

09-12-2005, 07:13 PM

First Hand: Flopped bottom set into monotone board. What is a better line?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t700)
BB (t695)
UTG (t1215)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t1535)
Hero (t665)
Button (t885)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t200, 2 folds, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t425) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets t50, Hero raises to t200, BB calls t150.

Turn: (t825) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t825) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets t50, Hero calls t50.

Final Pot: t925

Second: Resteal here? Or muck?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP (t2470)
Button (t690)
SB (t2340)
Hero (t620)
UTG (t1880)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, 3 folds, SB raises to t300, Hero re-raises all in, SB calls t320.

Flop: (t770) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Turn: (t770) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

River: (t770) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t770

These are both 11's

09-12-2005, 07:19 PM

Hand 1: not a huge fan of raising to 1/3 your stack preflop with 55. Raise much more on the flop; in a 10+1 they're calling you with a wide range, and you want to make that as dumb a play as possible. You actually gave him correct odds to call. With your stack, this is an easy push. If you had a much bigger stack, I'd raise pot to about 650.

Edit: forgot this...

Hand 2: This is a fold or a stop and go. I'm leaning towards fold, but I hate both options. If you push, villain calls no matter what. You would prefer that he's stupid and folds, so you wait til a flop and then push and pray that he'll actually really dumbly fold. The other option is just to surrender your 150 here.

ZeroPointMachine

09-12-2005, 07:27 PM

Hand 1- Either push the flop or let it go. Given your stack I auto push.

Hand 2- You have zero FE to resteal. Villian is getting over 3:1 to call and has chips. Fold or expect to race. If you know Villian has a really big range here you have enough dead chips in the pot to go for it. But your not dead if you pass.

09-12-2005, 08:23 PM

Hand 1: Since you decided to play this hand, I like the aggressive raise to t200. I can't get the rest of my chips (465) in the middle fast enough on this flop.

Hand 2: Muck. With ~3.9:1 on the call, SB will rarely fold here, even at the 11s. Q7o doesn't hold up well enough against a random hand for you to push here, IMO.

EMcWilliams

09-12-2005, 08:27 PM

Thanks all

SammyKid11

09-12-2005, 08:50 PM

Hand 1: Unless table is really tight or blinds are going up in a couple hands, I don't like the preflop raise in an 11. On the flop, that re-raise ought to be a push. You're happy for one spade to call you all-in. Only raising to t200, you're giving him proper drawing odds.

Hand 2: You have absolutely no fold equity. IMO, stop 'n' go isn't effective here, not only because your chip stack is SO low, but also because you act second in the hand (ie- if villain bets straight out, which is likely, then you've just wasted 150 chips unless you hit a card). Just fold and look for a spot to steal with a little FE and/or a decent hand.