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J-Lo
09-12-2005, 06:22 PM
If villain raises me, i go broke, correct?

***** Hand History for Game 2700166895 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:15678660 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, September 12, 18:22:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 12165 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Michaeljg40 ( $945 )
Seat 4: Senior_Smoke ( $840 )
Seat 6: Ivettm ( $1145 )
Seat 9: mdbiglan ( $1000 )
Seat 1: tywebb264 ( $1020 )
Seat 3: winterm ( $945 )
Seat 8: Scorpio996 ( $1415 )
Seat 7: Evely666 ( $1000 )
Seat 5: nirzharsux ( $985 )
Seat 10: merch72 ( $705 )
Trny:15678660 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nirzharsux [ 4c 2c ]
Evely666 calls [15].
Scorpio996 calls [15].
mdbiglan folds.
merch72 folds.
tywebb264 folds.
Michaeljg40 folds.
winterm folds.
Senior_Smoke folds.
nirzharsux calls [5].
Ivettm checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 7c, Qc ]
nirzharsux bets [45].
Ivettm calls [45].
Evely666 folds.
Scorpio996 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
nirzharsux bets [100].
Ivettm calls [100].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
>You have options at Table 11516 Table!.
nirzharsux bets [175].
Ivettm calls [175].
nirzharsux shows [ 4c, 2c ] a flush, queen high.
Ivettm shows [ 3c, Tc ] a flush, queen high.
Ivettm wins 700 chips from the main pot with a flush, queen high with ten kicker.
damn, nh

edit: if i get raised on ANY street, i'm pushign right over the top-- or should i use more finesse in situations like these

theben
09-12-2005, 06:23 PM
that depends on what street and how much

09-12-2005, 06:57 PM
I don't think you should've been in the hand in the first place. Tighten up.

deathpotato
09-12-2005, 07:03 PM
No, he is in the SB, this is fine.

To the OP: I think that is a fairly good stance to take when playing without reads. You will find players, however, that you should not push into in some situations when raised. I can think of a lot of players who I would call down in this hand.

applejuicekid
09-12-2005, 07:16 PM
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If villain raises me, i go broke, correct?

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Yes

If raised, push. What other options are there that require more finesse? Calling? No I push here everytime.

And calling from the SB is fine.

09-12-2005, 10:46 PM
push if he raises. also take comfort in knowing he didn't win as much as he could have from you.

tlow03
09-12-2005, 10:57 PM
nirzharsux bets [175].
Is that a value bet?

With a paired bored and the lowest possible flush I think you should be <b> very </b> hesitant to move all in here.

J-Lo
09-12-2005, 11:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
nirzharsux bets [175].
Is that a value bet?

With a paired bored and the lowest possible flush I think you should be <b> very </b> hesitant to move all in here.

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yes value bet, most would agree that donks will turn over QT/A8... or other complete trash hands..

Michael C.
09-12-2005, 11:16 PM
Nothing at all wrong with playing a hand like this in the sb or even from the button once in a while.