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45suited
09-12-2005, 06:04 PM
My push or villain's call? PP 22 Comments on each action welcome.

Blinds 50-100

UTG (HERO) ( $890 ) dealt KsQs, I raise all-in
UTG+1 ( $1685 )
UTG+2 ( $1395 )
CO ( $820 )
Button( $1210 )
SB (765)
BB (1235)

BB called with 88. What is your play with KQs, UTG here?

illegit
09-12-2005, 06:16 PM
The open-push seems fine. Only other way to play KQs at this stage is to muck it. The call doesn't seem terrible either mostly because he closes the action.

bones
09-12-2005, 06:20 PM
Unless blinds are going up very soon, I don't like the push.

Hate the call, obviously.

curtains
09-12-2005, 06:28 PM
I would fold KQs here.

BigHobo
09-12-2005, 07:06 PM
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Unless blinds are going up very soon, I don't like the push.

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Agree. The blinds aren't really worth stealing and if you get a call you're almost certainly a dog.

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Hate the call, obviously.

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I don't mind the call. Based on the size of the raise I wouldn't suspect the pusher has AA,KK,or QQ, so 99,TT,JJ are the only hands I'm not favored against and I think there is a strong possibility that pusher has a lower pp. Also, I'm getting 1.2/1 in chip value.

I probably don't make this call but I don't think it's unreasonable, particularly for a player that feels he needs to gamble a little bit to win.

lastchance
09-12-2005, 07:08 PM
I don't like the push, and I don't like the call, but with the right reads, both are somewhat reasonable.

Edit: Basically, both suck, but you can call 88 against a maniac, and you can push KQs at a tight table.

Chaostracize
09-12-2005, 07:35 PM
Yours.

BadMongo
09-12-2005, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I think this is a fold. 20+2 tables will rarely be tight enough for this to be +EV. I don't think it's terrible though, especially if the blinds are going up next hand. As for the call, I'm not really a fan, but it's far from the worst call I've seen at this buy-in.