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whitelime

09-12-2005, 06:01 PM

Villain in this hand is a 52/27/2. Here is an earlier hand he played maybe 35-40 min ago. Villain is MP in this hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($1063.75)
UTG ($1454)
MP ($1961.75)
Hero ($1380.25)
SB ($1015)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, MP raises to $20, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $15, BB raises to $30, MP raises to $60, SB calls $40, BB calls $20.

Flop: ($180) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $80, SB raises to $250, BB folds, MP calls $170.

Turn: ($680) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB calls $705 (All-In), MP calls $705.

River: ($2090) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $2090

Results in white below: 
MP has Th Ah (one pair, tens).
SB has 5s 5c (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: SB wins $2090. 

Here is the hand in question:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($1000)
Button ($860.50)
SB ($2089)
Hero ($1396)
UTG ($1678)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, MP calls $10, Button raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $75, MP folds, Button raises to $150, Hero calls $65.

Flop: ($315) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $75, Hero calls $75.

Turn: ($465) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button calls $635.50 (All-In), Hero ?

Sadat X

09-12-2005, 06:13 PM

It's obvious this guy goes on mini-tilt when he gets raised, I can see why you'd think about calling this on the turn. I'd just muck it though. He could easily have Ax, and you're drawing to 2 outs. I don't think there's enough info here to make a case for calling that big a bet.

I would have made some kind of move on the flop. Probably bet out and go over the top of his raise given the way he reacts to aggression.

donny5k

09-12-2005, 06:14 PM

I don't see a problem with getting more money in preflop against a guy like this.

AZK

09-12-2005, 06:24 PM

reraise pre, raise flop.

flawless_victory

09-12-2005, 06:38 PM

slam the money in preflop as fast as you can, but nevermind that. look at that flop! raise the flop... try to get all the money in.
on the laydown-o-meter, 10 being v tough and 1 being instamuck, id say the turn is a 0.1... get outta there.
seriously though, letting him catchup like that is a crime.

whitelime

09-13-2005, 02:07 AM

1) I didn't remember the exact details of the hand the villain went broke on with AT. I just remembered the postflop action. As a result, I didn't think villain would min-raise, and then min-reraise with a wide range of hands. I thought he was just a standard fish and put him squarely on AA or KK there.

2) Given #1, would you still push preflop with QQ?

3) Given #1, would you be willing to get all your money in on the flop?

4) I have no way of interpretting his flop bet. Fish will make that kind of retarded 1/4 pot bet with AT, AA, KK, AK, maybe 66, who knows. Since this player is never folding AA or KK here, my plan was to call the flop, and then re-evaluate on the turn. If he made another very weak bet, I was going to min-raise him and scare him into thinking I have a T and see a cheap showdown.

5) His overbet on the turn A really confused me. I'm almost positive he doesnt have Tx or AA here. He is most probably holding something like JJ, KK, or Ax and just playing it like a donkey. Problem is I only beat JJ so I folded. He did not show.

Lucky

09-13-2005, 03:36 AM

I think you played PF well. On the flop though, get it in.