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jon462
09-12-2005, 04:34 PM
30+3 on empire
Should I be betting this on flop or turn? I feel like I have the best hand, but there are so many people in the pot. Probe bet maybe?

#Game No : 2699603645
***** Hand History for Game 2699603645 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15675365 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, September 12, 16:27:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 12695 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: OneKYrdStare ( $730 )
Seat 2: younggov ( $1480 )
Seat 3: maddogmike75 ( $755 )
Seat 4: Mellott44 ( $505 )
Seat 6: boggiboy ( $645 )
Seat 7: Vaporeon ( $1135 )
Seat 8: turk8m ( $860 )
Seat 9: Giga_debt ( $990 )
Seat 10: bundie007 ( $900 )
Trny:15675365 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Giga_debt [ 7h 7s ]
Giga_debt: dammit
>You have options at Table 11649 Table!.
Giga_debt: wish you hadnt slowplayed lol
>You have options at Table 12773 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12773 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11649 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11649 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12773 Table!.
OneKYrdStare did not respond in time.
OneKYrdStare folds.
younggov calls [50].
maddogmike75 folds.
>You have options at Table 11649 Table!.
Mellott44 calls [50].
boggiboy calls [50].
Vaporeon folds.
turk8m folds.
Giga_debt calls [25].
bundie007 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 4d, 3d ]
Giga_debt checks.
bundie007 checks.
younggov checks.
Mellott44 checks.
boggiboy checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
Giga_debt checks.
bundie007 checks.
younggov checks.
Mellott44 checks.
boggiboy checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
Giga_debt checks.
bundie007 checks.
younggov checks.
Mellott44 checks.
boggiboy checks.
Giga_debt shows [ 7h, 7s ] two pairs, sevens and threes.
bundie007 shows [ 5c, 8d ] a straight, two to six.
>You have options at Table 11605 Table!.
younggov doesn't show [ Qs, Jc ] a pair of threes.
Mellott44 doesn't show [ 7c, Ac ] a pair of threes.
boggiboy doesn't show [ Ks, Qh ] a pair of threes.
bundie007 wins 250 chips from the main pot with a straight, two to six.
Game #2699612276 starts.

EMcWilliams
09-12-2005, 04:39 PM
OOP early...I think I personally take the same line as you

psyduck
09-12-2005, 04:41 PM
You should bet T175 (2/3 pottish) on this great flop. Most other flops, you'll be check/folding. Attempt to check down if you encounter any other action after flop (or if just one caller on flop, you can fire another bullet on turn for 1/2 pot).

Also, if you were down to 10BB, a push preflop is another viable option as well. With almost 20BB, I play for set value.

jon462
09-12-2005, 05:01 PM
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You should bet T175 (2/3 pottish) on this great flop. Most other flops, you'll be check/folding. Attempt to check down if you encounter any other action after flop (or if just one caller on flop, you can fire another bullet on turn for 1/2 pot).

Also, if you were down to 10BB, a push preflop is another viable option as well. With almost 20BB, I play for set value.

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I absolutely cannot bet this flop with 5 people seeing the flop. Plenty of people limp with 88-1010, not to mention AA, KK, 66, 22, 33.. and some people (like me) limp with JJ. The turn is the only place I see I can bet but im not entirely comfortable with it with 4 others in the hand. Then again its frustrating to see I was so far ahead of everyone on flop and turn and I let the BB suck out on me with his junk on the river.

adanthar
09-12-2005, 05:04 PM
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I absolutely cannot bet this flop with 5 people seeing the flop.

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Sure you can. You can bet/fold this flop a lot easier than when you are practically forced to (check/)call it.

Also, never mind limping JJ in level 1; if you limp it in level 3, it's a giant leak.

microbet
09-12-2005, 05:17 PM
I guess it was an awkward (yep, aWkward) hand for all five of you ladies.

johnnybeef
09-12-2005, 05:29 PM
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Also, never mind limping JJ in level 1; if you limp it in level 3, it's a giant leak.

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For an advanced player that can let go of it when an over card comes, yes it is a leak. However, there are some players who have difficulty doing this and as such limping in an effort to keep the pot small is a much better play.

jon462
09-12-2005, 05:32 PM
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I guess it was an awkward (yep, aWkward) hand for all five of you ladies.

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hahah good call.

Anyone, I think i shoulda bet 150 ish on the turn with the intention of folding to reraise.

09-12-2005, 07:12 PM
I bet this without thinking. I head what you're all saying, but I'm ahead a big % of the time, the few times I'm not I have 4 outs unless they have 25 or 75, and there's a draw that I wanna price out. I come out for 2/3 pot or so.

Of course, I don't play these stakes.

DDH
09-12-2005, 07:57 PM
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I absolutely cannot bet this flop with 5 people seeing the flop. Plenty of people limp with 88-1010, not to mention AA, KK, 66, 22, 33.. and some people (like me) limp with JJ. The turn is the only place I see I can bet but im not entirely comfortable with it with 4 others in the hand. Then again its frustrating to see I was so far ahead of everyone on flop and turn and I let the BB suck out on me with his junk on the river.

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I bet on the flop, its the only way to find out where you stand. The only way you're going to know if someone is slowplaying something on you is too make some kind of bet and find out. You've got enough chips to to afford a bet of about 150 and see what happens, if you get called, you get a better idea of what's out there, if someone comes overe the top, you still have enough chips to walk away and not be desperate.