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octaveshift
09-12-2005, 10:32 AM
Curious what you think of the line to this point, and what your plan is on the turn...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP (t1770)
CO (t1680)
Hero (t945)
SB (t970)
BB (t1750)
UTG (t2885)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t50, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t250) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets t50</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls t200.

Turn: (t750) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, xyrophobic...????

schwza
09-12-2005, 10:52 AM
i'd take the free card. i don't see villain calling that raise and folding to a turn push very frequently. T8 just got there, and nothing too scary for Jx just happened.

Maulik
09-12-2005, 10:55 AM
i would have pushed the flop with the pot already containing 30% of your stack, you should run the board or use your FE to take down the pot, otherwise the turn decision becomes much tougher.

durron597
09-12-2005, 11:08 AM
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i'd take the free card. i don't see villain calling that raise and folding to a turn push very frequently. T8 just got there, and nothing too scary for Jx just happened.

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The pot is still small, I would make a larger raise or just call, t250 is not enough to make the guy fold in a pot that size.

KramerTM
09-12-2005, 11:11 AM
Given how you played it, I would take the free card on the turn to hit one of your supposed 15 outs. If you miss, you won't be crippled, though I think I would prefer moving in on that flop.

octaveshift
09-12-2005, 11:57 AM
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The pot is still small, I would make a larger raise or just call, t250 is not enough to make the guy fold in a pot that size.

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I'm confused... What street are you talking about?

09-12-2005, 12:01 PM
I call flop. You like other people in, and you could easily start a little calling chain. I don't mind the raise though.

Chaostracize
09-12-2005, 12:13 PM
I call this. If he bets &gt;t150 I push, but I don't want to steal this pot getting at minimum 6-1 odds.

Chief911
09-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Call the flop. Why knock out people behind you who are probably going to build you a bigger pot? You have plenty of outs.

In your situation, check behind on the turn, see if you hit any of your outs, and see what the villain does OOP on the river. If you miss, and he checks, I'm probably going all in to take the pot away from him. What hand that he can call an all in with is not worth betting either the turn or the river?

Nick

durron597
09-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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The pot is still small, I would make a larger raise or just call, t250 is not enough to make the guy fold in a pot that size.

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I'm confused... What street are you talking about?

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flop

octaveshift
09-12-2005, 02:05 PM
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What hand that he can call an all in with is not worth betting either the turn or the river?


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Good point.

FWIW- Care to take a guess what he's holding? He calls the BB preflop. Minbets into a large field on the flop, then calls the near pot-sized raise. Then he checks the turn?

Pasterbator
09-12-2005, 02:23 PM
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FWIW- Care to take a guess what he's holding? He calls the BB preflop. Minbets into a large field on the flop, then calls the near pot-sized raise. Then he checks the turn?

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33 seems to fit the requirements.

09-12-2005, 02:25 PM
you think 33 is checking the turn with flush draw and a straight draw on the board? If he has 33 he's protecting his hand at this point, not trying to lay traps

Pasterbator
09-12-2005, 02:29 PM
didnt realize its a $109. But at the 11s/22s it can be 33.

Chaostracize
09-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Min-bet, call of the raise, checks the turn; looks like flush draw to me, possibly the nut draw. If you miss the river after checking through this turn (which is what I would do after raising the flop as a semi-bluff), bet that river.

Chief911
09-12-2005, 03:21 PM
He could have a million things, but I'd rank em:

1. AJ or A9
2. TT
3. Any two diamonds
4. KJ?

Outside chance at a monster he's playing REALLY slow like 99 or JJ or 33.

Hard to tell really with so little information.

Nick