how to play a super aggrsive player

i play in a 5-10-25 on the butten home game,and this supp agg player is unbeatable,he all ways seats in the 5 seat for some reason and takes control of the game,can anyone tell me why the "5" seat ,and where is the best seat to play in the game?

[BluffTHIS!]

He sits there because of superstition most likely. Assuming he was the only LAG in the game, I would attempt to sit opposite of him so that I could at least have position on him half the time and also get to see the reactions of some other players to his bets and raises. If you were playing with a very short stack then sitting on his immediate right would be best so that you could use his bets as a springboard to checkraise allin, particularly preflop with aces. The worst seats in relation to him would be the 2 on his immediate left because he would frequently guarantee you never get a free play in the blinds even when everyone folds to him preflop. Plus if you use that position to raise him with non-nut hands post flop when you think he is betting light, then you run the risk of him running you into the nuts held by a 3rd player behind you.

You have asked the key question regarding this game, and no matter how good you play, a bad seat in relation to this kind of player will often insure a losing session.

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sitting on his immediate right would be best so that you could use his bets as a springboard to checkraise allin, particularly preflop with aces.

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In this seat you get to see what the other players do before you act. You act last in relation to this player in the four seat. You can search Card Player for an article by Rolf S. regarding this topic.

If he raises a lot preflop, do not limp unless you plan on calling or backraising.

ty,bluffthis and atobet for the adv.

[Acesover8s]

The best seat in relation to your opponent depends on stack sizes and how the other opponents react to his play.

In most cases, I like to sit to his immediate right, limp with a lot of hands that can flop the nuts or huge draws, and checkraise the field.

so.the seat to his rigth is the best in your oppion?

[Acesover8s]

In most cases, yes. Unless you are willing to play back at your opponent with marginal hands, then the seat on his left is ideal.

how would u play against a player like this?

[BluffTHIS!]

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Unless you are willing to play back at your opponent with marginal hands, then the seat on his left is ideal.

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But this runs the risk I mentioned of getting run into a better holding behind you in multiway pots. However headsup you have to playback like this or he'll bleed you dry. And that is exactly what he is slowly doing with passive players, and all those small and medium pots he picks up like that give him a freeroll to suckout with weaker drawing hands where the pot odds of the hand itself in question wouldn't warrant it.

yes bluffthis you have sumed it up and this is exactly what is goning on and everone thinks he is just real lucky,but he is out playing the table.i think i am the only one that knows better.

[BluffTHIS!]

That should give you an even bigger edge then. You just need to pay real close attention and make notes after playing about how he plays various types of hands postflop so that you can take maximum advantage while not falling into traps when he actually has a hand. And if you do play back headsup with marginal hands he will gamble more and pay you off in turn when you have the nuts.

ty bluff,1 more qustion would u play minnium take outs or one big take out?

[BluffTHIS!]

If by takeout you mean buyin, then you should buyin for an amount where you can buyin at least 3 times because his play will make your variance higher. And if you mean when should you quit, that's up to you but I would want to have a chance to make the most off this guy or other players tilted by him so I wouldn't leave until either he did or the game was no longer good. If I built up a big stack though I would not play back as much with marginal hands since the blinds and amounts of average preflop raises would no longer be hurting you so bad when you fold.

bluff,in your opinion what is a good way to break his rythem,and have him tilting?

[joewatch]

The way I take out a super-aggr player is Omaha is to check-raise and bet into him regularly. Not every hand, usually only when I am heads-up. Super-aggr make their profits by getting marginal hands to fold and occasionally getting their big hands to pay off. I prefer to sit directly across from super-aggro. The thing not to do is to play passively, unless you have a good-great hand like top or 2nd boat. Then it's time for rope-a-dope.

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The way I take out a super-aggr player is Omaha is to check-raise and bet into him regularly. Not every hand, usually only when I am heads-up. Super-aggr make their profits by getting marginal hands to fold and occasionally getting their big hands to pay off. I prefer to sit directly across from super-aggro. The thing not to do is to play passively, unless you have a good-great hand like top or 2nd boat. Then it's time for rope-a-dope.

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Didn't i see you do this to therempel the other night?

[joewatch]

You must be thinking of the other joewatch.

[BluffTHIS!]

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bluff,in your opinion what is a good way to break his rythem,and have him tilting?

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You can't and you don't want to even if you could because that is what allows you to exploit his play.

[TheRempel]

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The way I take out a super-aggr player is Omaha is to check-raise and bet into him regularly. Not every hand, usually only when I am heads-up. Super-aggr make their profits by getting marginal hands to fold and occasionally getting their big hands to pay off. I prefer to sit directly across from super-aggro. The thing not to do is to play passively, unless you have a good-great hand like top or 2nd boat. Then it's time for rope-a-dope.

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You're going to end up check-raising a tricky player when you're in a spot where you're a marginal favorite or a big dog a lot of the time.

For instance, I raised somelike like QJJ9 OTB the other day, the flop came 78T rainbow and I bet out 2/3 of the pot on the flop. You smoothcalled and I knew you had at best 69. Unfortunately the donkey on your left pushed his top set and sucked out or I would have had all your money. Playing aggro against aggro generally only results in a shoving match in which you are a short and long term dog.

[joewatch]

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Playing aggro against aggro generally only results in a shoving match in which you are a short and long term dog.

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Huh? Isn't that just even money? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TheRempel]

Aggro players are typically aggro because they can play it profitably. You may have started playing more aggressively over the last few weeks, but you will find yourself in a lot of bad spots if you're not careful.

i play with aggro player that all ways wants t 5 seat.can u tell me why?

[TheRempel]

Superstition, I guess. You might want to check and make sure there aren't any mirrors / windows close by that might reflect hole cards.

Are there people that always choose other seats? Is the player that usually sits in seat 4 very passive while the player in seat six typically aggressive?

[joewatch]

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Aggro players are typically aggro because they can play it profitably. You may have started playing more aggressively over the last few weeks, but you will find yourself in a lot of bad spots if you're not careful.

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LOL, Thanks for the warning, buddy!

[Acesover8s]

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Aggro players are typically aggro because they can play it profitably. You may have started playing more aggressively over the last few weeks, but you will find yourself in a lot of bad spots if you're not careful.

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Aggressive players are typically agressive because they like aggression. Some of these players are good, but the really truly hyper aggressive ones are huge losers.

Omaha is not holdem, and a good player can sit back and pick off these guys at will with superstrong hands. The amount of bluffing you can get away with in this game is nowhere near what you can do in holdem.