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Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 04:04 PM
First hand.

Seat 7: hiway510 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: ldogg1980 ( $1000 )
Seat 10: mixtli1 ( $1000 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $1000 )
Seat 1: bigj0e03 ( $1000 )
Seat 8: moetoe ( $1000 )
Seat 2: Sandberg23 ( $1000 )
Seat 5: Adi07 ( $1000 )
Seat 4: dewarsclub ( $1000 )
Seat 3: MrLagTag ( $1000 )
Trny:15648116 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Qs ]
moetoe raises [60].
ldogg1980 folds.
mixtli1 folds.
bigj0e03 folds.
Sandberg23 folds.
MrLagTag folds.
dewarsclub folds.
Adi07 folds.
Hero calls [50].
hiway510 calls [45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 4s, Ad ]
Hero checks.
hiway510 bets [60].
moetoe calls [60].
Hero calls [60].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
Hero checks.
hiway510 checks.
moetoe checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
Hero checks.
hiway510 bets [150].
moetoe raises [300].
Hero folds...

KramerTM
09-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Ypu played it fine though and losr as little as you could. The turn was the worst possible card for you, unfortunately.

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 04:12 PM
Worst? Best. Gave me a million river outs. I'm not really worried about KQ, TT, or AT here.

Oluwafemi
09-11-2005, 04:44 PM
is a line with a raise on the flop instead of calling out of the question?

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 04:46 PM
What does a raise on the flop accomplish? I can find out where I am by turn action, no?

Oluwafemi
09-11-2005, 04:52 PM
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What does a raise on the flop accomplish? I can find out where I am by turn action, no?

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sure, had you bet the turn instead of checking. now on the river you're in a pickle facing a bet and a scratch-your-head mini-raise.

jadducci
09-11-2005, 04:53 PM
I think the call on the flop prevents you from clarifying your opponents hand. I would re-raise to 200 , if he has AK than your in trouble but that is something you risk when you play AQ.

09-11-2005, 04:54 PM
After the mini-raise it is quite apparent you aren't in the lead.

Although I do like a "probe"-like raise on the flop.

Oluwafemi
09-11-2005, 04:56 PM
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I think the call on the flop prevents you from clarifying your opponents hand. I would re-raise to 200 , if he has AK than your in trouble but that is something you risk when you play AQ.

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this is one of the reasons i advocate raising the flop instead on calling.

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 04:58 PM
Raise into a bet and a call? The call coming from a pf UTG 4xBB raiser? I'd rather have him define his hand on the turn.

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 04:58 PM
Oh, and I most likely would have led for 1/3 opt on the turn if that beautiful Ts didn't hit.

tigerite
09-11-2005, 06:29 PM
Checking the turn would be standard if you were last to act, but even though it's a great card I would bet here, after all you want money in the pot if the flush or straight gets there on the river, as you may not get paid off.

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 06:57 PM
But don't I also want to get to showdown?

I would also really, really hate getting raised on the turn.

tigerite
09-11-2005, 07:17 PM
It's a good point but leading the turn after your line on the flop is a big show of strength - most people don't have the cojones to raise you after that. They can surely move you off the hand anyway even if you check by pushing, or betting so much you can't call? In late position it's a no brainer check behind, but OOP it's a bit trickier.

Chaostracize
09-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Very true.