***The OFFICIAL 2005 New York Jets Super Bowl or Bust Thread**** [Archive]

brettbrettr

09-25-2005, 02:38 PM

Pennington needs to be benched until healthy. You can't let a guy with a sub-par-as-is arm play when his arm is less than 100%. Looks like less than 85%, to be honest. He looks horrid.

IndieMatty

09-25-2005, 03:18 PM

IndieMatty

09-25-2005, 03:28 PM

Bring in BROOKS!

hoopsie44

09-25-2005, 04:54 PM

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Pennington needs to be benched until healthy. You can't let a guy with a sub-par-as-is arm play when his arm is less than 100%. Looks like less than 85%, to be honest. He looks horrid.

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This is just becoming apparent to you now? He looked horrid a month ago in training camp but you were too busy spewing your Super Bowl nonsense to even notice.

pokerdirty

09-25-2005, 05:34 PM

Bust.

brettbrettr

09-25-2005, 05:58 PM

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Pennington needs to be benched until healthy. You can't let a guy with a sub-par-as-is arm play when his arm is less than 100%. Looks like less than 85%, to be honest. He looks horrid.

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This is just becoming apparent to you now? He looked horrid a month ago in training camp but you were too busy spewing your Super Bowl nonsense to even notice.

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You're a jerkoff. The Super Bowl thing is a joke. And there wasn't nearly enough preseason to determine anything.

hoopsie44

09-25-2005, 06:02 PM

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Pennington needs to be benched until healthy. You can't let a guy with a sub-par-as-is arm play when his arm is less than 100%. Looks like less than 85%, to be honest. He looks horrid.

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This is just becoming apparent to you now? He looked horrid a month ago in training camp but you were too busy spewing your Super Bowl nonsense to even notice.

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You're a jerkoff. The Super Bowl thing is a joke. And there wasn't nearly enough preseason to determine anything.

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I love it. Maybe your boy Jay Fiedler can bail them out.

lu_hawk

09-26-2005, 11:46 AM

Looks like a bust. The sad part is that most pieces of this team are actually pretty good, especially the defense. But you can't score points when your game plan is run up the middle 50% of the time, then the other 50% of the time run a 3 yd pass play because your QB is unable to make throws any further than that. Pennington is really hurting this team now, but politics will ensure that he starts next week.

brettbrettr

09-26-2005, 12:17 PM

Herm needs to grow a pair and bench him (if Fielder can go). If neither of them can go, we should trade for Volek (unlikely, they said in the offseason they wanted a #1) or bring back...Vinny. Sad that that seems like a good option right now. Very, very sad.

At least Fabini is out for the year. He has looked 100% horrible.

wh1t3bread

09-26-2005, 12:57 PM

Agreed on every count. Despite all the crap that the Jets and Pennington have spewed, his shoulder is still not 100%. I really think Pennington is hurting this team right now. I give him an "A" for effort, but his production is not even remotely as good.

If Fiedler isn't hurt, Edwards should be using him until Pennington can throw with velocity again. That might be another month or next season.

I've heard things like Martin hasn't exactly looked good either. But the O-Line play has been horrible and they have gone against some good defenses. It's also pretty easy to defend against the run when you don't have to worry about the pass.

---wh1t3bread (who is anxiously awaiting the results of these mri's).

Dynasty

09-26-2005, 07:42 PM

The NFL Network reported that it's likely that Pennington is out for the season. He's getting the MRI treatment but it doesn't look good.

brettbrettr

09-26-2005, 07:44 PM

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The NFL Network reported that it's likely that Pennington is out for the season. He's getting the MRI treatment but it doesn't look good.

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Good. I'm glad. He should do a proper rehab this time.

Voltron87

09-26-2005, 07:48 PM

goddamn do i hate the jets.

especially how during every game they always show that retarded fireman, ugh. the cheer is awful, i didnt think it was actually real. come on, think of something better.

sam h

09-26-2005, 07:48 PM

This team is closer to drafting Matt Leinart than getting into the playoffs, much less making the superbowl. Looking at that brutal schedule coming up, I can easily imagine this team winning only 4 or 5 games this year.

Joe_d72

09-26-2005, 08:14 PM

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Jets quarterback Chad Pennington will miss the rest of the season because of a torn right rotator cuff, The Associated Press learned Monday night.

Pennington's injury was confirmed by a person with knowledge of his condition, but who declined to be identified because the team had not made an official announcement.

An MRI exam showed Pennington tore his rotator cuff in Sunday's 26-20 overtime loss to Jacksonville. The NFL Network originally reported the injury, the second time Pennington has had this tear in less than a year.

Pennington was expected to visit noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Alabama on Tuesday.

from espn.com

Maybe the jets can get Reggie Bush in the draft.

brettbrettr

09-26-2005, 08:15 PM

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This team is closer to drafting Matt Leinart than getting into the playoffs, much less making the superbowl. Looking at that brutal schedule coming up, I can easily imagine this team winning only 4 or 5 games this year.

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Now, sure. But we were a kick away from getting to lose to The Pats in the AFC Championship game last year and this Super Bowl thread started *before* the season. We lost Ferg, signed Law, felt ok about things.

Yes, our schedule does suck. No, if we win 5 games we're not drafting Leinert. It does you no good to have a good QB when you're left tacklle is a [censored] matador. I'll take D'Brickashaw. But its a bit too soon to be talking draft.

brettbrettr

09-26-2005, 08:37 PM

All I have to say is its Vinny time.

brettbrettr

09-27-2005, 10:53 AM

FAN just said we signed Vinny. Vinny is my favorite player. I have no illusions that he's any good at all, but this makes me happy.

09-27-2005, 11:08 AM

Brooks Bollinger, hahahaha, I'm so glad I have Baltimore's defense in FF, this is going to be huge points.

pokerdirty

09-27-2005, 11:42 AM

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All I have to say is its Vinny time.

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Bust.

Vinny Testaverde

09-27-2005, 11:47 AM

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FAN just said we signed Vinny. Vinny is my favorite player. I have no illusions that he's any good at all, but this makes me happy.

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Thanks Brett, you're my favorite 2+2 poster.

wh1t3bread

09-27-2005, 12:09 PM

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Vinny is my favorite player. I have no illusions that he's any good at all, but this makes me happy.

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Vinny Testaverde

09-27-2005, 12:12 PM

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Vinny is my favorite player. I have no illusions that he's any good at all, but this makes me happy.

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Thanks! I'll try my best, if I were you I'd drop Coles off your Fantasy teams though. Waynes' my boy.

Wes ManTooth

09-27-2005, 01:17 PM

welcome back Vinny!!!

Vinny Testaverde

09-27-2005, 01:43 PM

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welcome back Vinny!!!

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Good to be back. I think we need like four more threads about my return though.

wonderwes

09-27-2005, 02:28 PM

I would guess there is a hard split between Giants and Jets fans.

Chad Pennington is out, but somehow you just had this odd feeling at the beginning of the year something wasn't right for him. Maybe the chosen backup QB will actually help the offense more. Anyways, this team will not make it to the superbowl. They will be lucky if they can make it to the playoffs.

brettbrettr

09-27-2005, 02:31 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/sports/2001/11/25/mora_7116.jpg

Playoffs?

LBJ

09-27-2005, 02:33 PM

You guys should consider signing Tim Couch. Seriously. Stop laughing.

09-27-2005, 03:17 PM

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/sports/2001/11/25/mora_7116.jpg

Playoffs?

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Diddly-poo?

Hal 2000

09-27-2005, 03:58 PM

Careful getting to Hofstra today, Vin! 9-car accident on the Meadowbrook Parkway.. lol

Vinny Testaverde

09-27-2005, 04:13 PM

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Careful getting to Hofstra today, Vin! 9-car accident on the Meadowbrook Parkway.. lol

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Christ, I'm not looking forward to that [censored]. Luckily, Woody let's me use the J&J coptor.

It flys out of Republic airport.

http://www.massaeronautics.org/mac_files/Photo%20-%20MAC%20Helicopter%20N16002.jpg

brettbrettr

09-29-2005, 10:54 AM

This is awesome:

"Vinny Testaverde said some of his new teammates said they remember him from the Tecmo Bowl video game"

Vinny Testaverde

09-29-2005, 11:53 AM

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This is awesome:

"Vinny Testaverde said some of his new teammates said they remember him from the Tecmo Bowl video game"

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http://www.knobbe.org/images/front.gif

= http://media.scout.com/Media/NFL/92104_Vinny_Testaverde.JPG

IndieMatty

09-29-2005, 11:57 AM

Apparently Vinny likes using pictures that [censored] up the forum viewing.

brettbrettr

09-29-2005, 11:57 AM

I'd have bet $400 that you were Vinny. Hmmm....

IndieMatty

09-29-2005, 12:01 PM

$400. Weird arbitrary number. Is this the amount of money you will be saving from a lost season of betting on the jets?

brettbrettr

09-29-2005, 01:01 PM

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$400. Weird arbitrary number. Is this the amount of money you will be saving from a lost season of betting on the jets?

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No, I don't bet on the Jets. It was simply arbitrary.

brettbrettr

10-02-2005, 07:53 PM

Our playcalling was 100% horrible in that game. Had a chance if we don't run the ball on 3rd down, twice, when the box was stacked. Awful.

TheRover

10-02-2005, 08:08 PM

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Our playcalling was 100% horrible in that game. Had a chance if we don't run the ball on 3rd down, twice, when the box was stacked. Awful.

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Seems dumping Hackett didn't change that much. Maybe it is a different person on that coaching staff that's the problem (ahem)?

I didn't see the game. How did Bollinger look? His stats seem ok. Mediocre, not horrible.

brettbrettr

10-02-2005, 08:12 PM

This is Herm being ultra-conservative.

I don't know, maybe I'm a gambler but I don't think we win that game playing conservative so I let the kid sling the ball. I mean, they had 9 in the box.

Bollinger has 70 yds going into the 4th quarter. Made some good throw then, too little too late.

Oh, and once again we dropped a ton of passes.

Voltron87

10-02-2005, 08:15 PM

i watched 3-4 plays of a jets drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter and bollinger looked awful. he was slow to drop and had absolutely no power.

brettbrettr

10-02-2005, 08:16 PM

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i watched 3-4 plays of a jets drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter and bollinger looked awful. he was slow to drop and had absolutely no power.

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Small sample. He looked good on some plays too, esp late in the 4th when they called passing plays.

Voltron87

10-02-2005, 08:27 PM

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i watched 3-4 plays of a jets drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter and bollinger looked awful. he was slow to drop and had absolutely no power.

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Small sample. He looked good on some plays too, esp late in the 4th when they called passing plays.

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yeah i qualified saying that i only saw a couple plays. but regardless, hes a third stringer for a reason, and i dont see how the jets season is going to be anything other than awful. i mean, they looked bad in the weeks before their first two QBs went out.

brettbrettr

10-02-2005, 08:31 PM

No, I agree. I don't think we win 6 games. I think with Fiedler we'd contend for a playoff spot. Chad was hurt, hence us looking awful in the first two.

ethan

10-24-2005, 11:40 PM

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schadenfreude bump.

The Jets have looked pretty terrible so far tonight (through 3 quarters). One decent drive, and about 37 minutes of trainwreck. Depending on how Testaverde's achilles turns out, they may have just lost yet another quarterback too.

edit - looks like once Vinny left they pulled the offense together. Hmmmm.....