Kings under heavy fire, how to act?

Two red kings in my hole.

Seat 1: realdef ($107.25 in chips)
Seat 2: HolyRoller45 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 3: possibly ($101.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($74.15 in chips)
Seat 5: thecrazymr ($55.20 in chips)
Seat 7: governor68 ($41.60 in chips)
Seat 8: LoveSpatula ($199 in chips)
Seat 9: Hasting ($104.50 in chips)
Seat 10: knivar3n2 ($115.90 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
thecrazymr posts blind ($0.50), governor68 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
LoveSpatula calls $1, Hasting bets $4, knivar3n2 calls $4, realdef folds, HolyRoller45 calls $4, possibly folds, Hero bets $22, thecrazymr folds, governor68 folds, LoveSpatula folds, Hasting calls $18, knivar3n2 folds, HolyRoller45 calls $18.

Pot 70,5

FLOP [board cards 4S,6S,QD ]
Hasting bets $70, HolyRoller45 folds, Hero? (52,5$ left)

Im pleased with all comments.

Hastings have been playing 20 minutes on table without doing anything really donkish, or playing big pots.

[Finite_Risk]

Uh, call?

[gol4pro]

You can't fold here for 2.5:1.

[JFM]

What hands do you put him on? Witch of thouse do you have beat? I can only see AQs (and KK).
That said, your geting good odds to call (2,7:1)and have al ready invested ca: 30% of your stack so if you can bring a 100$ more if you lose call.
If not, at least think about folding.

[DaveduFresne]

He got improper odds to hit his set. If he got lucky, without an amazing read, you have to pay him off.

[Finite_Risk]

Most people aren't raising from EP with 4's or 6's so I'd rule them out - maybe he has AA-QQ. More likely is AKs or AQs.

You are just calling a pot sized flop bet (actually less given your stack) - maybe I'm dense but I don't see how you fold this here.

[JFM]

You´r a smal favourite against AK /images/graemlins/spade.gif (55/45)
You´r a smal dog against AQs (49/51)
you´r a BIG dog against QQ, AA (8/92)
If he has KK it´s 82% chance of a tie

You don´t call for the of chance of hitting a K. IF you call you do it because there is to much money in the pot.
You are going to lose money, the question is if you will lose less by calling or folding.

this looks to me like a guy who: A. doesn't want a call, but might not hate one either; or B. a guy who figures he might have the best hand and doesn't figure he can get away from it considering the size of the pot and your smallish amount left, and he probably figures he's gonna have to put it all in anyway. I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. I think you have to call. I think you're up against A-Q or A-K with the draw.

[JFM]

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I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. think you're up against A-Q

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If he puts Hero on AK /images/graemlins/spade.gif?

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I think a set of queens would have bet out half of Hero's stack or checked here. think you're up against A-Q

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If he puts Hero on AK /images/graemlins/spade.gif?

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yeah, of course, it's possible he could have a set of queens and be afraid of As Ks. But Hero sure didn't play the hand like A-K. I think everyone at the table knows he's got aces or kings. That's why I said it looks like someone who is trying to push him off a hand. Most people who flop top set with that pot size, Hero's stack size, and knowing Hero has aces or kings are either betting out half Hero's stack in an effort to get it all or are c/r him all in. Either way, they're looking to get Hero committed to that pot. Open pushing the flop doesn't fit that MO. Of course, it's possible though. Either way, considering the pot size and stack size, I think Hero has to call here.

[JFM]

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yeah, of course, it's possible he could have a set of queens and be afraid of As Ks. But Hero sure didn't play the hand like A-K. I think everyone at the table knows he's got aces or kings. That's why I said it looks like someone who is trying to push him off a hand. Most people who flop top set with that pot size, Hero's stack size, and knowing Hero has aces or kings are either betting out half Hero's stack in an effort to get it all or are c/r him all in. Either way, they're looking to get Hero committed to that pot. Open pushing the flop doesn't fit that MO. Of course, it's possible though. Either way, considering the pot size and stack size, I think Hero has to call here.

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If I where the villian i´ll put him on high PP or AK.
how do you play Ak in an pot like this?

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yeah, of course, it's possible he could have a set of queens and be afraid of As Ks. But Hero sure didn't play the hand like A-K. I think everyone at the table knows he's got aces or kings. That's why I said it looks like someone who is trying to push him off a hand. Most people who flop top set with that pot size, Hero's stack size, and knowing Hero has aces or kings are either betting out half Hero's stack in an effort to get it all or are c/r him all in. Either way, they're looking to get Hero committed to that pot. Open pushing the flop doesn't fit that MO. Of course, it's possible though. Either way, considering the pot size and stack size, I think Hero has to call here.

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If I where the villian i´ll put him on high PP or AK.
how do you play Ak in an pot like this?

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So if Villain puts him on high PP or AK, why would he open push and risk losing Hero? Villain would want to do everything he could do get Hero to committ the rest of his stack. It's possible that Villain could open push with a set of queens, but I think more times than not, he won't play the hand this way. I mean afterall, how many times do you think someone is going to check aces or kings on this flop when everyone has checked to him? The best, surest way to get hero completly committed to this pot is to bet half his stack or c/r him, if necessary since Hero might just push anyway.

[JFM]

There has been a lot of action PF and 3-way on the flop,
I would lead out whith the Queen´s but (as you wrote) not push.
You´ve convinced me to take the coin flipp /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thank you for answering. I hate to reraise other bigstacks with other hands than aa/kk. I do it very very rarely. Im 4tabling so he could now this. And i could have missed him.

OK i folded.

So why did i fold.

I cant see how he could have called 18bb more with aqs but who knows. My first guess here is he holding AA. If he push preflop he would loose me. Other villians surprising overcall have to bee 77-jj or ak i guess. I think he just called and autopushed any non a flop.

Since my hand is very defined already, would he probarly not pushed qs, but if he thinks im gonna call anyway its not imposssible.

AA fits to the hand he would never fold, and lets do it easystrategy.

The only hand besides KK i like too see if i had called is AKs, and that the reasons too call. Im not supposed to let my overpair go, so pushing without the goods seems unlikely?

I think this one is close, and I had called with aces. I hated to fold overpair too that odds but it seem right too me.

I usally always pay off with my overpair vs trips and i have seen a few players pot it vs me with toptrips.

I like too raise my aa and kk enough to get out junk.

He never showed his hand, but he typed in "strange" in the chatwindow when i folded.

Mr Blopp

Ps does anybody play regularly at betsson please contact me.