.5/1 Hand

[westside_eh]

***** Hand History for Game 2691769167 *****
$0.50/$1 Omaha Hi/Lo - Sunday, September 11, 02:42:03 EDT 2005
Table The Shack (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rude62 ( $34.45 )
Seat 2: L0QTiSofB0rg ( $18.88 )
Seat 3: WakeNBakeIt ( $53.09 )
Seat 4: ocbeach ( $21.56 )
Seat 5: book_it ( $62.48 )
Seat 6: cas53 ( $30.50 )
Seat 7: Berto133 ( $8.56 )
Seat 9: smoothtim ( $30.50 )
Seat 10: waynew ( $28.51 )
Seat 8: westsideeh ( $20.55 )
cas53 posts small blind [$0.25].
Berto133 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to westsideeh [ 8c Ah 2h Ks ]
westsideeh calls [$0.50].
smoothtim calls [$0.50].
waynew calls [$0.50].
rude62 folds.
L0QTiSofB0rg folds.
WakeNBakeIt folds.
ocbeach folds.
book_it raises [$1].
cas53 folds.
Berto133 calls [$0.50].
westsideeh calls [$0.50].
smoothtim calls [$0.50].
waynew calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Kh, 6d ]
Berto133 checks.
westsideeh checks.
smoothtim bets [$0.50].
waynew folds.
book_it calls [$0.50].
Berto133 calls [$0.50].
westsideeh calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
Berto133 checks.
westsideeh checks.
smoothtim bets [$1].
book_it folds.
Berto133 folds.
westsideeh folds.
smoothtim does not show cards.
smoothtim wins $7.75


Should I have called?

[TGoldman]

No.

[westside_eh]

If I had called, and it went check-bet-call on the river, the pot would've been at $10.50 (after rake I think). And I would have to put in $2 more.

Assuming I am only playing for a split, That makes my pot odds 1:2.1. If I got the split 50% of the time, I'd show a profit.

So, let me reprase my question:

Do you think either my top 2 pair or horrible low will split atleast 50% of the time?

Lets try to count my ours here (correct me if you disagree, I'm trying to pull a Dan Harrington):

Any 3 prolly gives me the best low. Thats 4 outs which I'd be about 65% sure about, thus 2.5 outs.
Any A or K prolly gives me the best high. I'd be about 80% of those 4 outs, thus 3 outs.

5.5 outs=12.5% chance (correct my math please if its wrong).

So if he doesn't have a hand to scoop 37.5+% of the time, I'd show a profit.

What do you think?

[Buzz]

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Should I have called?

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EH - I would have played this hand very much differently from the way you played it.

Round #1 - I would probably limp, just as you did, but then I probably would re-raise. But no big deal one way or the other.

Round #2 - I think you should have bet this flop yourself, and missing this bet <font color="white">_</font>is a big deal. You have to get yourself into a position where you're not going to get out-played on this hand, and you start by betting this favorable flop.

Round #3 - You wanted to make low with your ace-deuce and you didn't. But now you have top two pair, aces and kings! You should bet this turn - and missing this bet is a big deal too. If you don't bet this turn, somebody behind you is likely to out-play you, and you won't know if you're getting out-played or not.

[ QUOTE ]
Should I have called?

[/ QUOTE ]

No.

You have to fold because you can't tell where you stand in the hand - but that's because of the meek way you've played the hand up to this point.

(Step #1) Limp/reraise before the flop.
(Step #2) Bet the flop.
(Step #3) Bet the turn.
Do all these (or at least steps #2 and #3) and everything would be different. Do step #2 plus step #3 and maybe Smoothtim would be folding to you on the third betting round instead of the other way around.

Just my opinion. I'm giving it to you straightforwardly.

Buzz

[GooperMC]

Pre-flop:
I'm ok with limping or raising.

Flop:
Like buzz said I think you have to bet, esp. after you raised pre-flop.

Turn:
I agree with buzz again, I think you have to bet if only to see where you are at. You are going to get some fold equity and if someone raises you can get away from it. Also you do have a low (albeit a bad one) which another A2 may not have.