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Misfire
09-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t2095)
UTG (t1135)
Hero (t1040)
CO (t4445)
Button (t4340)
SB (t1945)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t100, Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t450</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t350, Hero??
tigerite
09-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Why are you calling &gt;10% of your stack off OOP with 66 preflop?

How the hell is 10bb short stacked? Just push or fold preflop, and I lean towards fold.
lastchance
09-10-2005, 08:14 PM
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Why are you calling &gt;10% of your stack off OOP with 66 preflop?

How the hell is 10bb short stacked? Just push or fold preflop, and I lean towards fold.

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What he said.
KramerTM
09-10-2005, 08:15 PM
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Why are you calling &gt;10% of your stack off OOP with 66 preflop?

How the hell is 10bb short stacked? Just push or fold preflop, and I lean towards fold.

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Well at least he tells you how he really feels. That said, I agree with every word he said. You need at least 15BB to be limping for set value, but I pretty much never do this after Level 2.
Misfire
09-10-2005, 08:20 PM
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Why are you calling &gt;10% of your stack off OOP with 66 preflop?

How the hell is 10bb short stacked? Just push or fold preflop, and I lean towards fold.

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I was just limping hoping to flop a set. It was less than 10% of my stack and I didn't think I was quite at push/fold stage yet...then again, I wasn't sure, and I was tempted to push into the raiser...which looking at it now I think may have been suicidal.

Still learning...thats why I posted.
Misfire
09-10-2005, 08:21 PM
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Well at least he tells you how he really feels.

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That's all I ask.
tigerite
09-10-2005, 08:23 PM
It's basically &gt;10% with the blinds to hit you in 2 hands time. But the main point is it's OOP. You can get raised behind (as happened) and even if not, it's very rare you'll get to act last on the flop. You're more likely to be sandwiched between the blinds, the UTG limper and whoever calls after you. Not a pleasant situation when the pot is likely to be around 4-500.