Speaking of wine...

[private joker]

The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

I'm wondering if anyone in OOT would agree with me that the best red wine value is the 2001 Clos du Bois Reserve Cabernet (http://www.wine.com/wineshop/product_detail.asp?PProduct_ID=SWS101427_2001&Nu=p _family_name&cid=shoppingcomdf79285). It is absolutely delicious, goes great with steak, and is extremely affordable. Yes?

(My #2 choice would be the Coppola Claret, which at $15 is a steal).

[cdxx]

try this georgian wine (http://www.georgia-wine.com/kindzmarauli.htm)

you'll be pleasantly surprised. ~$15

[Dominic]

Have you tried any of the great Hunter Valley reds from Australia? Great wine at a great price.

Also, there are some incredible Argentinian wine, too.

[tonypaladino]

Shiraz

Yellowtail, Jacob's creek (australians) and even Fat Bastard (french) are all good varieties. Dont let the price fool you. Yellowtail shiraz is only like $8, but is wonderful.

[wacki]

Trader Joes has a crapload of wine that is very good for $5 a bottle. Just walk in and talk to the manager.

[Bukem_]

Clos du bois is great value for the money, always on sale for cheap on west coast, usually 12 bucks or so.

On East coast its usually 18ish though.

[private joker]

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Trader Joes has a crapload of wine that is very good for $5 a bottle. Just walk in and talk to the manager.

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I get the majority of my wine at TJ's. But as good as it is, it's still not fantastic. No wine is *fantastic* at $5.

[MrTrik]

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Clos du bois is great value for the money, always on sale for cheap on west coast, usually 12 bucks or so.

On East coast its usually 18ish though.

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Here in MN the Chardonnay floats between 8.99 and 10.99. All the other varieties seem competitively priced as well. My wife loves the Chardonnay, S. Blanc, Pinot, and Cabernet. Not so high on the Zin though. She will drink beer now and then or vodka, but mainly she's a wine drinker and for her everyday glass or three with and after dinner Clos du bois is one of the best values we have around here. I like the stuff too, and especially like the value as compared to some other wines that are as good but pricier.

[garyjacosta]

The absolute best budget wine I have found is Turning Leaf Syrah... I find it better than many $15 plus bottles.

Do yourself a favor and pick up a bottle. Kind of spicy, nice blueberry finish

[MrTrik]

I've tried various Turning Leaf offerings. Probably because advertising works. I've never been impressed at all. Since I'm not sure I've tried the Syrah, I will do so. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I know I hate their Chardonnay, but I'll try the Syrah and see.

[kenberman]

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The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

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if you think white wine sucks, then you don't actually like wine.

[KDawgCometh]

does anyone have a link to any site that is good for learning more about wine, right now I just need the basic stuff, like what to look for and what not

[rusellmj]

www.wine.com (http://www.wine.com)

or

www.wineenthusiast.com (http://www.wineenthusiast.com)

[runner4life7]

Turning leaf, good choice. My dad works for E&J Gallo so I know mostly only stuff he has told me, but he isnt too biased because he does drink plenty of non gallo wine. I was told not to drink yellowtail though because it is terrible. One of my favorite cabernets is Louis Martini with 3 different qualities ranging from a $15 a$22 and a $35 bottle. The 15 being my most often choice because im cheap.

[ftball0000]

check out www.jrwines.com (http://www.jrwines.com) It's my family's wine

[private joker]

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if you think white wine sucks, then you don't actually like wine.

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If I said I also thought country music sucked, would you claim I don't actually like music?

[bdohaney]

I am not a big fan of ANY mass-produced wine (yellow tail, turning leaf, etc.) That being said, there ARE some wines that you can get for around 15-30 that are *fantastic*. You just have to know where to look, like at small vineyards that don't even sell to wholesalers. Or, sometimes even larger stores will get small batch wines through importing wineries, etc (My favorite is a 1999 Jill's Vineyard Pinot Noir, found for about $38 or so now... IF you can find it.) And, also, S. America produces some fantastic wines for the price. Try an unfiltered cabernet sauvignon from Chile around 95-97 (to let it settle some). And finally, I am also a huge fan of Spanish reds lately. Great variety, and I think that they are way underrated.

[Brain]

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I've tried various Turning Leaf offerings. Probably because advertising works. I've never been impressed at all. Since I'm not sure I've tried the Syrah, I will do so. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I know I hate their Chardonnay, but I'll try the Syrah and see.

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That's okay, I hate Yellowtail merlot (which has been recommended above) so maybe I'll have to try the shiraz.

[jason_t]

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The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

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I bet you don't like Merlot too.

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

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The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

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I bet you don't like Merlot too.

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white wine does suck.

[KDawgCometh]

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The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

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I bet you don't like Merlot too.

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I'M NOT DRINKING ANY [censored] MERLOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beernutz]

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Clos du bois is great value for the money, always on sale for cheap on west coast, usually 12 bucks or so.

On East coast its usually 18ish though.

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Bingo. Try their Reserve too, it is worth the extra few dollars.

[Rhone]

Wine Lover's page (http://www.wineloverspage.com/)

[slamdunkpro]

Best kept wine secret in North America. Some of these wines equal the best in the world.

Kelowna wine (http://www.travelkelowna.com/wineries.html)

[pokerdirty]

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The other thread is about white wine, which sucks.

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I bet you don't like Merlot too.

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I'M NOT DRINKING ANY [censored] MERLOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I used to say this before Sideways, and now I can't anymore. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Matt Flynn]

In the $10 cabernet category it's hard to beat the Abbeyville 2002 cab. Just great for the price. If you find a bunch PM me 'cause I want a couple more cases.

Somebody post the under $20 values from Conoisseurs's (or however you spell that) Guide.