What are card rooms like on a "Big Fight" night?

[Abagadro]

I'm going to be in Vegas this weekend for a conference. I guess I would classify the De La Hoya fight at the Mandalay as "big" (but maybe not). Generally how does that affect the poker rooms either in the hosting casino or around town:

1) None
2) More $, Less Talent
3) Insanity making it not worth trouble.

[Dynasty]

Option 2.

[Abagadro]

Woo hoo! That's the answer I was hoping for. Does that apply only to the venue (i.e. should I mosey up to the MB room) or will it filter around?

[Dynasty]

Mandalay Bay will have great 4-8 games running but the action will spread around. Poker rooms with good sports books attached (which includes MB) will get the best action. They may also have a 6-12 or 10-20 game. If you want to play bigger, you should go to the Bellagio or Mirage.

I'm not sure the De la Hoya fight is big.

[Ulysses]

I'm not sure the De la Hoya fight is big.

No way, Dynasty! I can only think of a few fights that could be bigger than the De la Hoya / Sugar Shane Mosley rematch right now. Lewis-Tyson of course. Maybe Roy Jones Jr. vs a couple of people. Lewis vs. Byrd or Klitschko? Maybe...

[johnb]

I think he is talking about DeLahoya vs Yori boy Campas this saturday and not the Mosely fight. I suspect that this would not normally get a lot of big players traveling in but I wonder if the combination of the WSOP and the fight might draw in a few more players than normal.

[Dynasty]

Very few people give a damn about Junior Middleweight champions and their title defenses. A "big fight" has to be a heavyweight fight or feature a marquee champion against a marquee challenger. De la Hoya doesn't make the cut.

Of the fights you listed, only Lewis-Tyson comes close.

[Abagadro]

Thanks for the info Dynasty. I play lower limit, so maybe the fight will be big enough to have a good 4-8 at the MB (which is all I'm looking for). I'll be playing at the Monte Carlo too (that's where my conference is) so I will try to say hello if you are around.

[J_V]

De la hoya doesn't make the cut. Please, after the vargas fight he does.

[Dynasty]

The skill of the boxer and the quality of his fights aren't relevent. Big fights are determined by the marketability of the boxers.

I'm very confident the majority of people who would be interested in a big fight wouldn't recognize the names Mickey Ward or Arturo Gatti. Yet, those two put on one of the most exciting fights ever. Despite how good that first fight was, their second fight wasn't big enought to be on pay-per-view. It was a standard HBO fight. Their third fight will probably be the same- just an HBO fight.

Go up to 100 sports fans and ask them "What did you think of De la hoya - Vargas?" I'm sure more than 90 of them would say "Huh?"

The simple fact is that Oscar De la hoya isn't a household name. Most people have no clue who he is.

[Ulysses]

LOL. No, you guys are correct, that's not a big fight. The only De La Hoya fight I care about is the Mosley fight, which I knew had been signed but didn't know when it was happening. Didn't know he had a fight signed prior to that.

[Ulysses]

Dynasty,

As I said in my previous response, I knew the Mosley fight had been signed, but didn't know De La Hoya had another one prior to that. You're correct, De La Hoya - Campos is not a huge fight.

However, you're very wrong about De La Hoya's marketability. He's no longer at the peak of his popularity, but he's still one of the most marketable boxers around. Definitely still the most marketable non-heavyweight around.

Here are some facts for you:

DeLaHoya-Mosley: 600k PPV buys
DeLaHoya-Vargas: 900k ($45M)
DeLaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4M ($64M)
Tyson-Holyfield II 2M ($99M)
The all-time record? Tyson-Lewis: 1.8M ($103M)

The DeLaHoya-Trinidad fight is in the top 10 in revenues, I think #6 or so. I know the top 4 are all Tyson fights. De La Hoya might not be a household name like Mike Tyson, but he's a huge draw, period.

[J_V]

Oscar De La Hoya is a household name without question. He is probably up there with Lennox Lewis in popularity among casual fans and non-fans. He is the "golden boy" after all and has a face for TV. Hell, he made it MTV's "Punked". He's huge.

The fact that his last fight was great is irrelevant.

[J_V]

n/m

[Mike Gallo]

The simple fact is that Oscar De la hoya isn't a household name. Most people have no clue who he is.

If you live in a latin community simply untrue. If you live in a "white bread" area you make a great point. Nobody knows or cares about Oscar.

Not too many people will care to see Oscar tune up VS Campos, however against Sugar Shane you might have a bit more buzz.

I visited the Foxwoods this weekend and they had the Toney fight. Even though nobody probably recognized the fighters the casino did a great job of promoting the EVENT .

I happen to agree that most people only care to see heayweights. Sad because I enjoy watching the lower weight class fights.

[marbles]

Based on my non-scientific poll of 4 co-workers (and me), 80% of sports fans know who Oscar De La Hoya is. I wouldn't classify any of us as fight fans.

Also worth noting: None of us knew he had a big fight coming up.

[offTopic]

...seems like on a big fight weekend, the, er, "talent" should be more, not less. /forums/images/icons/blush.gif