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private joker
09-09-2005, 08:42 PM
I hate these hands, and I feel lost. (4-tabling, so no real specific reads -- sorry).

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero...

09-09-2005, 08:55 PM
... folds. You might occasionally be facing a JTs someone decided to have fun with, but you're behind everything rational here besides KQs. Calling this down is -EV, raising might be OK if you can push the guy off his hand enough, but I don't like it.

toss
09-09-2005, 09:00 PM
I think this is a fold.

private joker
09-09-2005, 09:03 PM
What about the PF and flop plays?

toss
09-09-2005, 09:12 PM
PF LRR can be a really wide range. Could be a monster, could be a midpair, could be sooted garbage. He leads the flop and turn so I'm thinking my pair outs may be dirty. I also have to worry about the other guy in the pot.

Paxosmotic
09-09-2005, 09:46 PM
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What about the PF and flop plays?

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Even if you cap it, if he's got a real hand he's going to lead the flop anyway, costing you an extra .5bb to peel.

Bodhi
09-09-2005, 09:49 PM
I fold. The limp-reraiser could be donking around here, but I would only consider calling if a read told me Ace-high might be good at showdown.

Nick C
09-09-2005, 09:51 PM
I would play preflop and the flop the same way you did and then grudgingly fold the turn. I would also be hoping for MP1 and UTG+2 to go to showdown so I could see what MP1 had.

Bluffoon
09-09-2005, 10:32 PM
From my experience at 5/10 this means AA or KK like 95% of the time. There are a few guys I play with that I would peel the flop but I think you are drawing three outs to dead.

Alex/Mugaaz
09-10-2005, 01:09 AM
I treat the LRR hand as simply someone opening in EP as far as hand ranges go. You really can never narrow their range on the flop, regardless of what it is, but people who do it usually have a habit of being very straightforward on the turn and river.