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newhizzle

09-09-2005, 07:43 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament ($50 buy-in), blinds (t10/t15) (9 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Hero ($975.00)
Button ($940.00)
SB ($955.00)
BB ($960.00)
UTG ($940.00)
MP1 ($975.00)
MP2 ($1485.00)
MP3 ($2130.00)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
BB calls $15.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $15.00, 1 folds, SB calls $5.00, checks.

Flop: ($35.00) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets $80.00, raises to $160.00, BB calls $160.00, Hero calls $160.00, SB calls $80.00.

Turn: ($675.00) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, bets $45.00, BB calls $45.00, Hero calls $45.00, SB calls $45.00.

River: ($855.00) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, bets $55.00, BB raises to $110.00, Hero folds, SB folds, calls $55.00.

Final Pot: $1075.00.

edit: for some reason its leaving out one of the players, but it was an EP shortstack doing all the min-betting

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 07:49 PM

ok lets try a different converter

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t975)
Button (t940)
SB (t955)
BB (t640)
UTG (t960)
UTG+1 (t940)
MP1 (t975)
MP2 (t1485)
MP3 (t2130)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, 4 folds, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB bets t80, BB raises to t160, UTG calls t160, Hero calls t160, SB calls t80.

Turn: (t697.50) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t45, UTG calls t45, Hero calls t45, SB calls t45.

River: (t877.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t55, UTG raises to t110, Hero folds, SB folds, BB calls t55.

Final Pot: t1097.50

yeah thats better

Stoneii

09-09-2005, 07:52 PM

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Flop: ($35.00) 4, 6, K (3 players)
SB bets $80.00, raises to $160.00, BB calls $160.00, Hero calls $160.00, SB calls $80.00.

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why didn't u use a raise to help work out wtf is going on ?

Not being facetious but curious?

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Turn: ($675.00) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, bets $45.00, BB calls $45.00, Hero calls $45.00, SB calls $45.00.

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A call must mean u suspect something, you're not doing any informational betting ?????

stoneii

stoneii

bigt439

09-09-2005, 07:55 PM

Indeed. What the hell is going on here. I can't figure out the action at all.

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 07:56 PM

cuz i didnt know wtf was going on, and i didnt want to tie myself to the pot if somebodys got a weird 2 pair or something, then the min-bets had me suspecting a set, but they odds i was getting were just too beautiful to fold

octaveshift

09-09-2005, 07:58 PM

Unrelated, but what converter did you use for the second post?

Edit: Oh and that's one ugly ass hand.

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 07:59 PM

first post was Dave G
second was BisonBison

Stoneii

09-09-2005, 08:03 PM

so rather than use a raise to help work out where u were - u kept tieing yourself to the pot with pot odds ?

U can't work out where u are cos you've done no work to work out where u are?

stoneii

tom441lbk

09-09-2005, 08:09 PM

is utg a limp with almost anythign type of player, how'd he get his chips, i might throw in a raise to ~45-55 here if i decide that i'm going to play the hand, i might even fold it, but mostly i am limping i guess, what kinda flop are you looking for KQs in the early levels? a K high raggity @$$ flop? i'm looking to hit something a little bigger

flop- ahhh, talk about stuff i don't want to see with TPGK an overbet of pot a min-raise and a cold call, i'm folding this STAT! and after i fold i'm not really questioning WTF is going on, on the turn

tom

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 08:10 PM

so reraise on flop or raise the min-bet on turn?

i dont know if i like either with the pot as big as it has become, ill have to commit a lot of chips and insta-fold to a push

by the way, the way it turned out i should have raised, but generally in this situation i dont think they hold what they held

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 08:13 PM

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flop- ahhh, talk about stuff i don't want to see with TPGK an overbet of pot a min-raise and a cold call, i'm folding this STAT! and after i fold i'm not really questioning WTF is going on, on the turn

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i think im likeing this line at this point in the tourney, not really worth the risk early on

tom441lbk

09-09-2005, 08:15 PM

[ QUOTE ]
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flop- ahhh, talk about stuff i don't want to see with TPGK an overbet of pot a min-raise and a cold call, i'm folding this STAT! and after i fold i'm not really questioning WTF is going on, on the turn

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i think im likeing this line at this point in the tourney, not really worth the risk early on

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ESPECIALLY in a limped pot

lastchance

09-09-2005, 08:37 PM

There are three ways where you can play this, which all sorta make sense, I think.

A) Call Flop, raise turn. Works much better with less people in, but it's a strong move.

B) Call down. If you start calling on the flop, and call turn, you should really see the third bet, IMHO, even if you're not entirely sure your ahead. If you can't call river here, no reason to play this line.

C) Fold flop.

newhizzle

09-09-2005, 08:41 PM

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B) Call down. If you start calling on the flop, and call turn, you should really see the third bet, IMHO, even if you're not entirely sure your ahead. If you can't call river here, no reason to play this line.

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i didnt call here because i was more worried about short-stack pushing then about the guy raising

lastchance

09-09-2005, 09:08 PM

You missed the important part: If you can't call river, there is no reason to play this line.