Pacific report

[beernutz]

The good news:
I got my 25% deposit bonus - whoopee!

Good lord, its as if the loosest Party games got looser. I played some $3/6 HE and the % seeing the flop was over 70% - some truely godawful hands were being turned over.

That's about it for the good news.

The bad news:
Who the hell designed this interface? The game history flies by so fast you can't tell who won. There appears to be no chat. I could see no way to control the interface (e.g., no 4-color deck option, no way to turn off sound, etc.). No players notes or statistics that I could see.

You can't easily tell how much cash you have as there is no bankroll information I could see in the Cashier. The only way I could figure out was to attempt to join a game and see how much I had.

Their bonus requirements are somewhat vague and I couldn't see a direct way to tell how much of the requirement I had completed. I got a $50 bonus which they say requires $1000 (20x) in raked bets. This would appear to be equivalent to 100 of their bonus points but as I say, its not clear. Anyone know for sure?

The support seems somewhat clueless. I attempted to contact them again about the fact that when making a Neteller deposit they have a popup window and two other text announcements that this will earn a 20% (not 25%) deposit bonus. I was patient. I explained it exactly. Support still does not get it. I give up.

Mostly HE, I only saw one $1/2 O8 game and it broke after less than 1 hour. Very soft though. Other than that there was ONLY HE. There were about 15-20 HE games running up to a short-handed $15/30 (with 7 players and 60% seeing the flop!).

[Inthacup]

The game history flies by so fast you can't tell who won. There appears to be no chat.

There's an option where you can play the whole thing from start to finish. There's also a button that let's you only show 1 move per click. If the entire hand history is too fast, just use the step by step 1. Also, they only keep your last 125 hands in their database.

You can't easily tell how much cash you have as there is no bankroll information I could see in the Cashier.

It's not in the cashier. It's in the main lobby window. The thing on the top right shows your bankroll.


Their bonus requirements are somewhat vague and I couldn't see a direct way to tell how much of the requirement I had completed.

I never found that either. Email support if you're curious, I guess.

I don't play there anymore, but the games are sweet. I played in(and lost) a hand at 5 10 that was over $500.

[beernutz]

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There's an option where you can play the whole thing from start to finish. There's also a button that let's you only show 1 move per click. If the entire hand history is too fast, just use the step by step 1. Also, they only keep your last 125 hands in their database.

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Thanks I didn't see that 'game history' button but that's actually a nice feature.

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It's not in the cashier. It's in the main lobby window. The thing on the top right shows your bankroll.


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Well fcsk me if that isn't my bankroll. I guess I need to work on my powers of observation. Sorry Pacific.

I also have to say I found the option to turn off sound on the main screen so I retract that earlier criticism. I don't think I'll quit my day job to become a professional online poker room critic.

[jek187]

Bunny? My wife?? Does this place look like I'm f***ing married?? The toilet seat's up, man.

What a movie. Kudos for a great sig Cup.

[Glenn]

After reading this I made a deposit and am trying it out...
COULD..............IT..................BE......... ...........ANY...................SLOWER......dear god i am gonna fall asleep but it won't matter because the next hand wont start til morning anyways

[Mike Haven]

there were a number of posts about pacific a few months ago when they first started - many suggestions for improvements were mooted - these were passed on to support - they always wrote an ultra-polite letter back

as far as i can see the ONLY improvement they carried out was to reduce the per move time from 40 seconds to 30 seconds - although i admit this speeds up each hand by about 4 minutes

the hand history feature page seems cool at first, but after a few visits to see specific hands, as you can't obtain a print-out, you will realise it is virtually useless

if you are momentarily stunned by the pot being shoved towards some other player who hasn't made a bet with his nut straight and you miss the pop-up that tells you who he was you cannot access the hand history from the table

support doesn't know twoplustwo exists (nor any other poker site, come to that) so any advice you try to give them through these boards is wasted

the "chat" feature is so slow and full of glitches that no one uses it any more

you can only play one table at a time - they have a "view lobby" feature, but as you can't look at another table it has little value

personally, i am so saddened by the fact that this is one of the most trustworthy sites on the 'net in terms of the likelihood of your being paid due winnings, and with a bit of effort they could have made themselves a market leader - but their software is so PAINFULLY slow, and i mean PAINFULLY, that it is virtually impossible to play there for more than half an hour or so without starting to crawl up the walls - in fact i now only visit when i am having tacos for dinner

[chaos]

They also had some software glitches. If two people posted out of position blinds the software gets confused and treats the second as the big blind (e.g. if the button is seat 1 and seats 8 and 9 post, the preflop action started with seat 10!). It didn't happen often and I'm not sure if they ever fixed this.

The games are incredibly soft and profitable if you can endure the slow pace.

[Glenn]

So I cashed out and got the following:

"Cash Out requests will be processed five (3) business days from the date of request."

Does that mean 5h 3h 5d 3s 8h is quads on pacific?

[beernutz]

Maybe they are Monty Python fans.

ARTHUR: Right. How many did we lose?
LAUNCELOT: Gawain.
GALAHAD:Ector.
ARTHUR: And Boris. That's five.
GALAHAD: Three, sir.
ARTHUR: Three. Three. And we'd better not risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite.

[lefty rosen]

You guys are too picky, the place is like playing with drunk buddies after work, I truly wonder if some of these players know anything about poker. You will find the place really slow if you internet provider is screwing up(then its unbearable if you are stuck). But tell me where you will see 2/4 pots that hit 100 bucks and two players dont have fulls or nutflush vs fulls. Here its top pair vs triples and guys quad(just laughable) or guys chase a low four card flush for a raise on the turn and put in against your face card flush. Only 50./1 is this loonie and this is at all stakes upto 5/10. Once you hit the 10/20 level it's still loose compared to most sites but the real morons dont exist anymore. Also guys chase with any pair so expect your good pockets or top pair to be cracked quite a bit by total garbage.

[beernutz]

You are absolutely right I think but there is also something vaguely fishy about the place. Some of the beats I've seen and taken in only two days of play are weirder than I've seen in several years of Internet play elsewhere (propoker excluded). Maybe it was just an anomoly and maybe I'll give it more time but I think I'll probably cash out and dump it.

[lefty rosen]

Hey beernutz what stakes were you playing? The 5/10 game is ultra aggressive if guys have a pair of 7's the play it like a high pocket pair and three bet the flop. You will get large swings, it took me a while to get accustomed to the aggressive play. But the play is dumb aggressive not smart after about 1 round you can spot the total tiltoids and isolate them and go one on one with them and take them out. Most of the bad players here are chasers that are passive not aggresive.

[TruePoker CEO]

.... the tacos line was funny, even if I don't actuall get it.

[beernutz]

I've played $3/6 HE and $1/2 O8 (only game offered) there.
[bad beat story deleted for the good of mankind]
I'll give it a shot again later because the games were juicy but I'm not mentally ready for the numbers and kinds of beats I was seeing.

[Mike Haven]

whose side are you on?

[Miah]

I recently cashed out the bulk of my money from Pacific mainly because of all the cashout hassles I was reading about on here. Do a little search and you can read about people being requested to fax copies of their passport and driver's license upon requesting a cashout. That's not cool.

Anyway, I could not play ONLY on pacific. I would have a "main" window open with a game on true, party, whatever, and a second one open on pacific and just value bet. That was more than enough to take down the money on their. I remember once I lost something like 25 bucks in a 1/2 with a set of 6's. Funny thing is, it was a 3 flush 3 Broadway board and I lost to a higher (also flopped) set. The post was about $70. That's right, $70 pot in a 1/2. Anyway, maybe when they speed things up a tad I'll give them another try. I also understand that one of the main reasons they are so slow is because of the poor players, so its a tradeoff, but sometimes I just didn't have the patience for a 30 hands/hour 1/2 game. Maybe if I played higher limits ... (I probably would not since I couldn't feel secure about cashing out anyway)

[richie]

I'm an average poker player at best, but even I can tell this site is full of fish /forums/images/icons/grin.gif I signed on last week and was up $75 on 1-2 HE in about an hour or two. Next night i found a .50-1 Omaha H/L and promptly won over $100 in 3 hrs max /forums/images/icons/cool.gif Took out my original $100 plus $150 and still have ~75 left (including the $25 bonus). Yeah, the software is SLOWWWWWW, but it's highly profitable if you can handle the slow play. I'd give it another shot.

[Tekari]

how fast did they payout and through what method? did you have to fax them your driver's licensce?
thanks!

[beernutz]

Yes, I'll probably have to give them another shot if only because they may not let me cash out. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[richie]

Sorry, Didn't mean to mislead anyone. I have $100 being refunded back to my credit card (my original deposit), and I just requested a $150 back by way of check. According to their site, the check could take 3-4 weeks to reach my residence. As of now, they haven't asked for any ID, etc. I'll keep you posted to any relevant details as they arise. I think I read that this company runs a big on-line casino, so I would think they're legit, albeit slow.

[lefty rosen]

I am Canadian, and they gave me no problems. The wait was 5 business day, no weekends. I have cashed out just over 1000 US and have about 700 US coming to me. So this place is cool. I also noticed that they have sped up my cashouts now they process them in 3 days.

[Miah]

I got my cashout in 3 business days no problem (neteller), however others have had some complications cashing out. Use the search feature and you can read about some of these problems. This was the main reason I cashed out.

[kdog]

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Anyway, I could not play ONLY on pacific. I would have a "main" window open with a game on true, party, whatever, and a second one open on pacific and just value bet.

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You're right miah,a second (or third) window is the ONLY way this site is playable unless I'm reading the newspaper or something at the same time. And you're premium starters will get cracked a lot by hands that leave you shaking your head and wondering just how many generations of incest it takes to produce a human stupid enough to play those cards. But when you're good hands hit the flop and stand up you are frequently paid off from multiple places.
My best 1-2 pot there was $102 with nines full.The other two shown hands were A-3o and J-3s who had called a preflop cap and 3 flop bets with bottom pair to hit the third 3 on the turn.

Overall the play there is better than it was three months ago but 2-4 games with 65% of the players seeing the flop is almost a nightly occurance.1-2 is about the same but they'll chase you farther into the hand with bad draws and bottom pair.

Final thoughts...I think right now the sites a must for those of you with multiple monitors.If you have Neteller,use that for your deposit and other than waiting a few days cashouts are no problem.