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DoomSlice
09-09-2005, 10:01 AM
Party Poker NL 25 10-max

Hero ($30) is BB with A /images/graemlins/spade.gifA /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Villain ($25) is Button

Preflop:
folds to Button, Button raises to $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $3

Flop ($6): 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif J /images/graemlins/spade.gif 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Hero checks, Button checks

There it is! Now someone tell me why betting there would be correct.

Turn ($6): K /images/graemlins/club.gif
Hero bets $5

Time to come out swinging!

Who likes, hates, is indifferent?

kitaristi0
09-09-2005, 10:02 AM
I'd feel much better slowplaying this on a rainbow flop.

jkkkk
09-09-2005, 10:07 AM
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here it is! Now someone tell me why betting there would be correct.

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Your hand is not invincible and needs to be protected against the flush draw or you need to be extracting value from QQ, KK.

DoomSlice
09-09-2005, 10:14 AM
I've got the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif and I'm confident that he does not have a high pocket pair due to his preflop call.

Does this change anything?

Plus he would have bet the flop.

jkkkk
09-09-2005, 10:18 AM
Ok you can probably safely rule out KK, I don't know why I said KK, QQ is a possibility, the fact you have A /images/graemlins/spade.gif only really changes the situation if a /images/graemlins/spade.gif falls on the turn. It would really help if you had a read here as a lot of players at this level could be holding JQs, KQs, AJo etc. As well as TT-KK

kurto
09-09-2005, 12:29 PM
Why check the flop? You made a reraise. You're expected to make a continuation bet. Do so.

Furthermore, there is a spade draw out there. The fact that you have the ace doesn't mean anything at the $25 tables. They's raise with Q2s, especially on the button.

Why give them free cards to catch up? You only have a pair.

DoomSlice
09-09-2005, 03:32 PM
2 pair, which is actually the only reason that I slowplayed it.

As for the spade draw, I'm heads up against a preflop raiser who called my reraise, and I have the nut card, so it makes it very unlikely that he was raising with spades.

kurto
09-09-2005, 03:41 PM
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2 pair, which is actually the only reason that I slowplayed it.


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I don't understand why that makes a difference. If you would make a contination bet with AK, why would you not do so with aces? (by the way there's nothing more suspicion then the reraise check. You are EXPECTED to lead out.) And if you think you're ahead, get more money in. Don't start betting after you've given them a chance to outdraw you.

2nd: if he raised and called your reraise, what is likely? For me, the most obvious candidate is a pocket pair. If that is the most likely, you are giving him a free card to hit his set and take your stack.

3rd- a loose player who raises with KQ suited on the button is not going to fold to your reraise.

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As for the spade draw, I'm heads up against a preflop raiser who called my reraise, and I have the nut card, so it makes it very unlikely that he was raising with spades.

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I need a stronger read to make that determination. I play the tables from $25-$100... I see people calling raises with hands like 3-5 suited all the time.

09-09-2005, 03:46 PM
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2 pair, which is actually the only reason that I slowplayed it.


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Your joking, right?

DoomSlice
09-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Nope, I want to give a weak pair of jacks a chance to pair his other card.

DoomSlice
09-09-2005, 03:54 PM
He called the $5, river bricked. I bet $15 and he called with KQo

brian94709
09-09-2005, 03:56 PM
For comparison, here's a hand where I slowplayed aces, something I'm not sure If I'd ever done before, and it worked out exactly as intended.
My read + table history are very important here: Villain is a bit loose preflop, but not particularly loose with his raises, and calls of raises.. and he's willing to make laydowns. His reraise pf definitely puts him on a premium hand. On the other hand, not too long ago at this table, I stacked someone when I made a large pf rereraise with AA, and the original raiser went all-in.

Seeing as villain will be willing to fold if he thinks I have aces, I didnt want to blow him away. At the same time I wanted to build the pot, so I minraised pf.. also serving to contrast with the way I had played my aces the previous time.

I was planning on check raising the flop. On the turn, I bet small to induce a large raise with the premium hand he would now feel is good. His AK got nicely stacked.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($81.85)
UTG ($311.60)
Button ($145.25)
Hero ($173.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13.5</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($29) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: ($29) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $67.85 (All-In), Hero calls $52.85.

River: ($164.70) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $164.70