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jmillerdls
09-09-2005, 05:34 AM
I have a couple hundred dollars to clear on Stars. I haven't played there before, but have been looking at the SNG's as my target for clearance.
I've noticed that they have 6-person SNG's, which I am not too familiar with. I did a search on here and didn't find any topics covering such tournaments. Anyone have extensive knowledge on these? I would think there would be more posts about them if they were reasonably profitable.
I'd assume they would lower variance, but perhaps also lower ROI? I have no clue, just curious why no one here has talked about them as they would seem to be a fairly good opportunity.

introv
09-09-2005, 05:51 AM
I play them pretty much all the time on the Cryptologic sites and love them. I've played 600 between $40 & $60 and have a roi of 29.29%. Worst ootm streak is 13. Just can't argue with that!

Seems to me that the best player at the table has a significant advantage that isn't primarily related to his ability to shove chips in the pot. Make sure you are that person and you should be laughing.

FWIW, I also had a roi of 24.54% across 1000 $20 10 player ones. My game has certainly improved significantly since then, but the games also took longer, so I certainly believe the 6 max ones are far more profitable - for me at least.

jeffraider
09-09-2005, 06:37 AM
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I play them pretty much all the time on the Cryptologic sites and love them. I've played 600 between $40 & $60 and have a roi of 29.29%. Worst ootm streak is 13. Just can't argue with that!

Seems to me that the best player at the table has a significant advantage that isn't primarily related to his ability to shove chips in the pot. Make sure you are that person and you should be laughing.

FWIW, I also had a roi of 24.54% across 1000 $20 10 player ones. My game has certainly improved significantly since then, but the games also took longer, so I certainly believe the 6 max ones are far more profitable - for me at least.

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Nice! What was your ITM number like, and what are the payout structures for 6-max SNGs?

jmillerdls
09-09-2005, 06:43 AM
Wow, this was exactly the type of information I was looking for. I wonder how many other people are doing this.

introv
09-09-2005, 09:18 AM
6 player ITM = 46.51%
10 player = 41.41%

Maybe the numbers for the 6ers are a little higher than they will be long term, I dunno. However, I can certainly feel my advantage most of the time - the number of opportunities presented by 6 players seems high and the number of bad beats seems lower with less hands to get through.

On Crypto the payout is 75%/25% ($180/$60 in a $40 game) so 2nds are pretty bad. However, it usually gets HU a lot earlier than regular SNG's so you have far more chance to actually play.

jmillerdls
09-09-2005, 04:10 PM
I wonder why Party doesn't have any of these.

downtown
09-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Can anyone confirm the 6-max payout structure at Stars? I have some bonus to clear there, and these sound like they might be fun for a change of pace once in a while.

jmillerdls
09-09-2005, 04:22 PM
They are 65-35...

benfranklin
09-09-2005, 05:03 PM
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Can anyone confirm the 6-max payout structure at Stars?

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The lowest ones are $12+1. They pay 2 places: $46.80 (65%) and $25.20.

jmillerdls
09-09-2005, 06:33 PM
Has anyone played the ones on Stars with any success?

introv
09-09-2005, 10:05 PM
I don't know. I do know that when they got introduced on Crypto the 10 player games seriously dried up. Seems like the non-profit making players love the action. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

bluefeet
09-09-2005, 10:21 PM
595 of them
387 @ the 13's
208 @ the 38's

44.2 itm
21.6 roi


....haven't played'm really since may - moved to turbos.

good stuff though, just a bit long (hour'ish)


Ps. THIS POST just cost me t1375...damn mouse become "active" over the "call" button on my sng at the same time i attempted to hit "continue"......called a three-way AT, KK.....and my 93o /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Bluff Daddy
09-09-2005, 10:23 PM
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6 player ITM = 46.51%
10 player = 41.41%

Maybe the numbers for the 6ers are a little higher than they will be long term, I dunno. However, I can certainly feel my advantage most of the time - the number of opportunities presented by 6 players seems high and the number of bad beats seems lower with less hands to get through.

On Crypto the payout is 75%/25% ($180/$60 in a $40 game) so 2nds are pretty bad. However, it usually gets HU a lot earlier than regular SNG's so you have far more chance to actually play.

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if you want to "actually play" why not play nl ring game or just a hu tourny, id rather play 9343253 tables and still have an edge pushbotting in a regular sng

introv
09-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Good for you!

I do also play ring games. Nothing wrong with playing lots of different styles of poker, is there? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif