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Fatdogs12
09-08-2005, 09:20 AM
***** Hand History for Game 2675590973 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15553010 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Thursday, September 08, 09:18:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 39771 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: EgoBond ( $2190 )
Seat 4: eatraw12 ( $1120 )
Seat 10: deims ( $830 )
Seat 9: rocky5013 ( $1760 )
Seat 3: Deivis_LT ( $2100 )
Trny:15553010 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to eatraw12 [ 8c 8s ]
Deivis_LT folds.
eatraw12 is all-In [1120]
EgoBond folds.
rocky5013 calls [1045].
deims folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 6s, 7d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
rocky5013 shows [ Js, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and sixes.
eatraw12 shows [ 8c, 8s ] two pairs, eights and sixes.
rocky5013 wins 2390 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and sixes.
eatraw12 finished in fifth place.
eatraw12 has left the table.

09-08-2005, 09:23 AM
Obviously it was wrong, he had Jacks.

And that's not 11 BBs.

chisness
09-08-2005, 09:25 AM
if it were 11 i think it'd be wrong, but in this case i like

Fatdogs12
09-08-2005, 09:36 AM
opps your right about the bb's... I just played the game and forgot the blinds were 75/150. The fact that he had jacks though doesn't make it wrong.

It should be about 7.5 bb's. If I wait till the blinds come around and take me I will be down to 6bbs. I can see folding this too but it's real close.

Nicholasp27
09-08-2005, 09:45 AM
wrong if 11bbs, but u have 7.5bbs, so it's a push

blinds are >20% of your stack
you have a good hand
you are first in pot

i don't like having 3 to act after me, but i still do it...he just happened to get jj...won't happen too often

Fatdogs12
09-08-2005, 09:46 AM
yeah that was my thinking... any more opinions are welcome though.

Karak567
09-08-2005, 09:51 AM
With 7.5 BBs, easy, easy push.

PS don't post results

usmhot
09-08-2005, 10:24 AM
I'm probably way wrong, but I'm not thrilled about mid-pairs in this position.
My line would be raise to 300, and then check it down postflop looking for the set, folding to strength.
Preflop you're OOP, with 3 to act after you. An all-in looks like a steal and should be called by AK - A10, KQ, KJ, and almost any pair.
By going all-in you give up any advantage you'll have in position over the villain.

Karak567
09-08-2005, 10:25 AM
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I'm probably way wrong, but I'm not thrilled about mid-pairs in this position.
My line would be raise to 300, and then check it down postflop looking for the set, folding to strength.
Preflop you're OOP, with 3 to act after you. An all-in looks like a steal and should be called by AK - A10, KQ, KJ, and almost any pair.
By going all-in you give up any advantage you'll have in position over the villain.

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This is way off, a waste of chips and extremely weak play. Gotta push this with 7.5 BB.

Fatdogs12
09-08-2005, 10:29 AM
You can't raise to 300 chips here and then fold it... no way. Pretty much you got no chance to win if you bet 300 because if any overcards come out (and the chances are good that they will) you are going to fold to strength.

Fold or push fo sho

45suited
09-08-2005, 10:40 AM
I push here without giving it so much as a second thought.

raptor517
09-08-2005, 11:16 AM
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I push here without giving it so much as a second thought.

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i give it less than that. auto shove, maybe even with 11. holla

pooh74
09-08-2005, 11:36 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I'm probably way wrong, but I'm not thrilled about mid-pairs in this position.
My line would be raise to 300, and then check it down postflop looking for the set, folding to strength.
Preflop you're OOP, with 3 to act after you. An all-in looks like a steal and should be called by AK - A10, KQ, KJ, and almost any pair.
By going all-in you give up any advantage you'll have in position over the villain.

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ewww....

That's the worst line possible...it comes right after setting your hair on fire and throwing yourself out your 2nd story window.

I Might push this with 11 BBs even...although that is much closer. With 11, you raise 3BBs and get reraised? What do you do? You would have about even odds against AT+ KQs 55+...so do you lay down? I would push this with anything around 10BBs...especially multitabling.