funny WCOOP #4 final table hand

[captZEEbo1]

I can't believe this happened at a final table.

PokerStars Game #2525393527: Tournament #10017950, Hold'em Pot Limit - Level XIX (8000/16000) - 2005/09/08 - 01:25:19 (ET)
Table '10017950 365' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SizDiz (124048 in chips)
Seat 2: BABYHAN (813245 in chips)
Seat 3: XX RAGED XX (464909 in chips)
Seat 4: wrap_99 (907984 in chips)
Seat 5: luckyfire4 (1134914 in chips)
Seat 6: dirkdiggler9 (2417400 in chips)
wrap_99: posts small blind 8000
luckyfire4: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
dirkdiggler9: folds
SizDiz: folds
BABYHAN: folds
XX RAGED XX: folds
wrap_99: raises 16000 to 32000
luckyfire4: raises 16000 to 48000
wrap_99: calls 16000
*** FLOP *** [2c 4s 3d]
wrap_99: checks
luckyfire4: bets 48000
wrap_99: calls 48000
*** TURN *** [2c 4s 3d] [4h]
wrap_99: checks
luckyfire4: bets 120000
wrap_99: calls 120000
*** RIVER *** [2c 4s 3d 4h] [3c]
wrap_99: checks
luckyfire4: bets 250000
wrap_99: calls 250000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
luckyfire4: shows [6d 7h] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
wrap_99: mucks hand
luckyfire4 collected 932000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 932000 | Rake 0
Board [2c 4s 3d 4h 3c]
Seat 1: SizDiz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BABYHAN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: XX RAGED XX (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wrap_99 (small blind) mucked
Seat 5: luckyfire4 (big blind) showed [6d 7h] and won (932000) with two pair, Fours and Threes
Seat 6: dirkdiggler9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[signal]

Must've been a metagame and they probably are both aware of the meme meme.

Seriously, funny hand.

So, I hope you were at that table taking fat pots offa tourists. I just got into a WCOOP event tonight. It''s on Friday. I guess this is the online WSOP equivalent... wonder why I've been outta the loop.

take it easy.

[toss]

Are you serious he called with the nut low and the initial bettor won with the second nut low? At the final table?

[LotsOfOuts69]

For a minute i thought the other guy must have 75, how could he make this mistake and call?? Oh wait, it wouldve been a split pot with 75.

Then I realized that he must of had 62 or 52 for a solid 3 pair. I guess you get tired after 12 hours of online play. I've made worse calls while bleary eyed.

At least 76 guy only had the third nut low.

The best part is the raising and reraising with 76 and 52 preflop.

[MicroBob]

This really is pretty weird.

Not only is he doing this stuff with 62 or 52 but he is also calling it down on the river.

[Skjonne]

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This really is pretty weird.

Not only is he doing this stuff with 62 or 52 but he is also calling it down on the river.

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He thought he flopped a str8

[captZEEbo1]

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This really is pretty weird.

Not only is he doing this stuff with 62 or 52 but he is also calling it down on the river.

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He thought he flopped a str8

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Didn't the guy with 87 think he flopped a straight? Who knows what other guy was thinking

[MicroBob]

I'm guessing he had 52.


He was hanging in there with his bottom-pair (and then 2-pair) and his straight-draw..and then obviously didn't realize that his 2 was obviously no longer good when the river brought another 3.



The 76 guy clearly knew this.
Anyone who thinks this is just a bluff to induce a fold isn't seeing it correctly.
76 guy KNEW that his opponent might have a 2 AND not be able to read the board.
There are 2 hands out there that he beats and either one could struggle to realize that their 3-pair is no longer good.
The 76 guy's bet on the river CLEARLY was for value.

[Skjonne]

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This really is pretty weird.

Not only is he doing this stuff with 62 or 52 but he is also calling it down on the river.

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He thought he flopped a str8

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Didn't the guy with 87 think he flopped a straight? Who knows what other guy was thinking

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As I said, He thought he flopped a str8 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3347844&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1)

[KramerTM]

Who is dirkdiggler? I think I played against him once in the PPM V Satellite.

[LoveDub]

Get him to show you his winkie!

I read on another forum about this. There were alot of ppl that thought there was collusion involved, and that the guy that lost was dumping chips to the guy that won.

Here's an email someone got from Poker Stars:


Thank you for your email; as I'm sure you are aware, we were observing the final table closely, and this hand raised a few eyebrows around here as well. Given that wrap_99 lost the hand, there are only two possible hands for him to have held: 62 and 52; both are fairly reasonable given the action prior to the river, and the call on the river seems to simply have been a product of fatigue after a long event, not noticing that he'd been counterfeited by the higher two pair.

Note as well that in the way this hand was played, the larger stack built
up a much bigger stack, as opposed to normal collusion methods, which is to
try to keep each other alive. After this hand, wrap_99 was moved down to
essentially last place in the tourney and was struggling to survive. This
hand is actually quite the opposite of what colluders would normally do.

There is nothing to indicate that these players know each other or
colluding in any way; it is simply as wrap_99 said: he made a stupid
mistake.

Regards,

Jacob
PokerStars Support Team

[captZEEbo1]

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I read on another forum about this. There were alot of ppl that thought there was collusion involved, and that the guy that lost was dumping chips to the guy that won.

Here's an email someone got from Poker Stars:


Thank you for your email; as I'm sure you are aware, we were observing the final table closely, and this hand raised a few eyebrows around here as well. Given that wrap_99 lost the hand, there are only two possible hands for him to have held: 62 and 52; both are fairly reasonable given the action prior to the river, and the call on the river seems to simply have been a product of fatigue after a long event, not noticing that he'd been counterfeited by the higher two pair.

Note as well that in the way this hand was played, the larger stack built
up a much bigger stack, as opposed to normal collusion methods, which is to
try to keep each other alive. After this hand, wrap_99 was moved down to
essentially last place in the tourney and was struggling to survive. This
hand is actually quite the opposite of what colluders would normally do.

There is nothing to indicate that these players know each other or
colluding in any way; it is simply as wrap_99 said: he made a stupid
mistake.

Regards,

Jacob
PokerStars Support Team

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This would be about the dumbest form of collusion EVER. There's a lot more subtle ways to do it then someone betting 8 hi and 6 hi calling. For instance, 6 hi could bet a bunch on river, and 8 hi can raise allin. That way it wouldn't look weird.

[Sponger15SB]

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Who is dirkdiggler? I think I played against him once in the PPM V Satellite.

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They have PPM V Satellites on stars? That is weird.