Most underrated frontman

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

Scott Weiland. He's up there as one of my favorites, along with Billy Corgan, Thom Yorke, and Josh Homme (and others), but he never gets much credit for being as badass as he is. He's über talented and an all-around badass. I'm not sure if it's too bad he spends so much time in jail or if that's part of his essence that can't be taken away. He's pure rock & roll all the way.

[shakingspear]

I don't think any of those guys are underrated, except maybe Josh Homme.

And I seriously question your idea of a badass.

[Boris]

Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

[asofel]

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Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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very nice. Unless you're a fan, many wouldn't know that name, or his incredible voice.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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I don't think any of those guys are underrated, except maybe Josh Homme.

And I seriously question your idea of a badass.

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I'm not saying Corgan or Yorke are underrated, just that they're among my favorites. Weiland and Homme certainly are underrated.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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He's another good one. I won't argue with Staley. I can't believe you'd think STP sucked, though.

[chuddo]

doug marsch.
http://img57.exs.cx/img57/5854/BTS31.jpg

[TheMainEvent]

Mick Jagger

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John Doe

[Claunchy]

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Mick Jagger

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Yeah, totally underrated. Most of my friends haven't even heard of him.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Mick Jagger

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There is no way you could make an argument for Mick Jagger being undrrated.

[DCIAce]

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My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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[Patrick del Poker Grande]

How about Isaac Brock? Any Modest Mouse fans? He's not really your typical rocker, but... he's good.

[Soul Daddy]

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How about Isaac Brock?

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Awesome. I was going to say Brian Wilson, but I like this better.

[jakethebake]

What do you eman by underrated frontment? You mean underrated as frontmen? You mean how good they prance around on stage? I thought only girls cared about that stuff? What aren't you telling us, Patrick? You're talking about how wet he makes you, aren't you? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Boris]

I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

[chuddo]

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How about Isaac Brock? Any Modest Mouse fans? He's not really your typical rocker, but... he's good.

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yeah he is pretty great but not a virtuoso or anything like doug who i posted earlier.

before 'good news for people who love bad news', the OC, and 'float on', modest mouse's live shows had a pretty different vibe and crowd.

of course it was a lot better then. but half the shows isaac would be too completely drunk or effed up on drugs to even perform properly at all and the show would be horrible.

then again the other half the time he would be drugged up and drunk perfectly and it would be a ridiculously badass show.

[mslif]

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How about Isaac Brock? Any Modest Mouse fans? He's not really your typical rocker, but... he's good.

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I just listened to modest mouse "neverending math equation" for the first time not too long ago and I loved it. I have been downloading more of their stuff. Real good stuff.

[Lazymeatball]

How can the most popular guy in the band be underrated? If anything the rythym section of STP is underrated as nobody can think of their names, but everyone knows Scott Weiland.

[Shajen]

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Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.


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Wow.

[sfer]

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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How can the most popular guy in the band be underrated? If anything the rythym section of STP is underrated as nobody can think of their names, but everyone knows Scott Weiland.

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Alright, you start up a "most underrated rythm section" thread then. We're talking frontmen here. And yeah, everybody knows Scott Weiland, but when you hear people talking about great frontmen, his name never comes up, when I think it should at least be mentioned.

[Claunchy]

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but half the shows isaac would be too completely drunk or effed up on drugs to even perform properly at all and the show would be horrible.

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That's what I was thinking too. I saw MM around the time of Moon and Antarctica and all I remember thinking is what a shitty frontman he was.

Great frontman doesn't just mean lead singer of [insert band I really like here]. It needs to be someone with stage presence.

[SL__72]

I really don't see how he's underrated. I've always been a fan of modest mouse and enjoyed them the one time I saw them live (probably 4 years ago now) but I've never been impressed with the singing. Maybe you mean his guitar playing. Hes a talented guy, maybe I just don't appreciate his voice.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

I guess I mean overall everything... stage presence, writing, musicianship, the way they shape the band, everything.

[sleight]

Pelle from the Hives, aka mini-Mick.

[smokingrobot]

im not a fan of velvet revolver though.

i mean wtf, that one video is pretty much "waah! im a rich rock star and blow money on heroine, my life is difficult"

[TheMainEvent]

This is kind of a tough question since frontmen almost always get a disproportionally large amount of credit in relation to the band as a whole, so they are seldom underrated. If a frontman is underrated, the band usually is too. I can't think of very many exceptions.

[istewart]

John Fogerty.

[2planka]

Should be obvious coming from me:

Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas.....)

[Redmen62]

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Scott Weiland. He's up there as one of my favorites, along with Billy Corgan, Thom Yorke, and Josh Homme (and others), but he never gets much credit for being as badass as he is. He's über talented and an all-around badass. I'm not sure if it's too bad he spends so much time in jail or if that's part of his essence that can't be taken away. He's pure rock & roll all the way.

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Exactly who I thought of when I saw the thread title, and I was sure no one would share my opinion.

[Ulysses]

Huh? Scott Weiland is widely recognized as one of the top rock and roll frontmen of our time.

[jakethebake]

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Huh? Scott Weiland is widely recognized as one of the top rock and roll frontmen of our time.

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Yea. I thought he was the second coming of The Lizard.

[SL__72]

I was thinking the same thing... So I'd have to pick an underrated band where the frontman plays a large roll (songwriter/singer/guitar) or something like that. My pick would be Jim James of the band My Morning Jacket.

[2planka]

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Yea. He thought he was the second coming of The Lizard.

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FYP

Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

[TheMainEvent]

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Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

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That reminds me, Chris Cornell. He's probably not underrated either though...is any frontman of a mainstream group underrated?

[jakethebake]

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Yea. He thought he was the second coming of The Lizard.

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FYP

Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

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My point was he wasn't underrated.

[shakingspear]

Scott Weiland can never be underrated because his band sucks. If anything he's way, way overrated.

Isaac Brock is very good, but I don't think he's underrated. Him and Modest Mouse have garnered tons of respect for over a decade. I just don't think he's been in the mainstream long enough to command any respect as a frontman. Even then I don't think he fits the classic model of a frontman. So in the future he may be underrated. I don't know.

Layne Staley is a good choice.

[istewart]

Modest Mouse sucks.

[Lazymeatball]

I still don't understand how a frontman can be underrated. Are you referring to a guy who's frontman skills make an otherwise mediocre band great, or just a guy who is the frontman of a band that is underrated in general?

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

Alright, let's just make it a "Name some good frontmen" thread. I like Chris Cornell, whoever said that one - that was good.

[istewart]

Daltrey.

[shakingspear]

I like their earlier stuff a lot. And my opinion matters more.

[IndieMatty]

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How about Isaac Brock? Any Modest Mouse fans? He's not really your typical rocker, but... he's good.

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The only issue I have with Isaac is how much he sucks live. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

IMO he still is probably the best front man right now.

[Slow Play Ray]

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Scott Weiland

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Funny, this is the first name that came to my head before I even opened this thread. He's definitely underrated - he doesn't have the stongest voice in the world, but he more than makes up for it in vocal creativity and flat-out effort.

One of the best concerts I have ever seen (out of well over 100) was STP at the Fleetcenter my junior year of college...must have been around November/December or 96 or so? Anyway, they had a second stage descend from the rafters, where they played an entire SICK acoustic set. F'n awesome show.

[Soul Daddy]

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The only issue I have with Isaac is how much he sucks live.

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Some of their live recordings are great. When I saw them, he basically hid behind speakers the whole time. It was really weird. Also, the venue sucked ass.

[Ulysses]

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Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

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That reminds me, Chris Cornell. He's probably not underrated either though...is any frontman of a mainstream group underrated?

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Chris Cornell is a good choice.

[IndieMatty]

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The only issue I have with Isaac is how much he sucks live.

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Some of their live recordings are great. When I saw them, he basically hid behind speakers the whole time. It was really weird. Also, the venue sucked ass.

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I've seen him a bunch of times, even in the ugly cassanova incarnation. It can be brutal if he is drinking.

[MikeNaked]

Mark Lanegan of The Screaming Trees. Possibly the best rock singer of the 90s

[IndieMatty]

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Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

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That reminds me, Chris Cornell. He's probably not underrated either though...is any frontman of a mainstream group underrated?

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Chris Cornell is a good choice.

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Who the F are you?

[ClassicBob]

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Stonetemplesmashingpearlvanaofthedoggarden.

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That reminds me, Chris Cornell. He's probably not underrated either though...is any frontman of a mainstream group underrated?

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Chris Cornell is a good choice.

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He pretty much sucks live though. He's a studio musician.

[jakethebake]

Fred Le Blanc of Cowboy Mouth

[TheMainEvent]

David Lowery

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

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I'm pretty sure you just don't like hard rock.

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John Fogerty.

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Best answer so far. I think.

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

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I'm pretty sure you just don't like hard rock.

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I'm pretty sure you're in no position to make that judgement.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

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I'm pretty sure you just don't like hard rock.

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I'm pretty sure you're in no position to make that judgement.

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Seriously, though. No STP for you?

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

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I'm pretty sure you just don't like hard rock.

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I'm pretty sure you're in no position to make that judgement.

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Seriously, though. No STP for you?

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Yeah, they never did it for me. Part of it is that they suffered a lot when compared to their contemporaries IMO.

[DasLeben]

The answer is clearly Geddy Lee.

[B Dids]

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doug marsch.
http://img57.exs.cx/img57/5854/BTS31.jpg

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I'll see that and raise you a Calvin Johnson.

I have dislike Chris Cornell since he stopped yelling and started making boring emo songs. Of course, I listen to like 3 rock songs a year, so ignore me.

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John Fogerty.

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Best answer so far. I think.

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Yes, by far. Not enough people appreciate CCR.

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I was being too harsh. STP is OK but not one of my favorite bands.

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Your original opinion was right. They are lame.

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I'm pretty sure you just don't like hard rock.

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I'm pretty sure you're in no position to make that judgement.

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Well, do ya?

They are a good rock band. A couple mediocre albums, yes. The guitar player is good. I was just giving you a hard time.

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John Fogerty.

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Best answer so far. I think.

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Yes, by far. Not enough people appreciate CCR.

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A lot of OOTiots don't even know what CCR means (they'd probably recognize the music). There was a thread on this way back.

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Should be obvious coming from me:

Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas.....)

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I'd say this the correct answer. Patton is WAAAAY underrated.

[B Dids]

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Should be obvious coming from me:

Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas.....)

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I'd say this the correct answer. Patton is WAAAAY underrated.

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This is a really good answer.

[Al P]

MJK

[Slow Play Ray]

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MJK

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MJK is isn't even remotely close to underrated.

[IndieMatty]

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Should be obvious coming from me:

Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas.....)

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I'd say this the correct answer. Patton is WAAAAY underrated.

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This is a really good answer.

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Edit seriously. This is the end of thread.

[Al P]

By fans yes but non-fans fail to absorb his brilliance.

[Slow Play Ray]

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By fans yes but non-fans fail to absorb his brilliance.

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I think this is significantly less true for MJK than most others mentioned in this thread.

Regardless, Maynard f'n rocks, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a douchebag. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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By fans yes but non-fans fail to absorb his brilliance.

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I think this is significantly less true for MJK than most others mentioned in this thread.

Regardless, Maynard f'n rocks, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a douchebag. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Aye!

[irishpint]

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How about Isaac Brock? Any Modest Mouse fans? He's not really your typical rocker, but... he's good.

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modest mouse is so good everyone ought to hear their older albums, not just the new one on a real label.

[RRRRICK]

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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Several years ago I saw Alice In Chains live, whilst I loved there music and thought Dirt was an awesome album, Staley was so stoned he could barely stand up let alone sing a note. About hour into the show drummer Sean Kinney got fed up, trashed his kit and walked off.

The rest of the band followed until Jerry Cantrell emerged did an acoustic version of Rooster and show over.

A.I.C = Cool
Layne Staley = Drug whore suck

[Jack of Arcades]

doug martsch for teh win!

also, ted leo is awesome

I love chris cornell.

[mblax10]

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Mark Lanegan of The Screaming Trees. Possibly the best rock singer of the 90s

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I think we have a winner. The fact that he has only been mentioned by one person further proves his under-rated qualties. The Screaming Trees/Mark Lanegan are widley forgotten from the Grunge era but should be mentioned in the same breath as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, etc. His solo stuff is also very good.

The problem with guys like Scott Weilend/Chris Cornell, etc. is 2 fold, they are widley recognized as being great, and they've each put out a couple stinkers to go along with their quality material. Yes, STP Purple &amp; Core are amazing but have you ever listend to Tiny Music?

Finally, off-topic Dean &amp; Robert DeLeo of STP are well deserving of being considered for most underated guitar/ bass players.

[Oski]

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Should be obvious coming from me:

Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas.....)

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I'd say this the correct answer. Patton is WAAAAY underrated.

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This is a really good answer.

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1. Patton
2. Buzz

two-fer-one with Fantomas

[coffeecrazy1]

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Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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He's another good one. I won't argue with Staley. I can't believe you'd think STP sucked, though.

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When I first saw the title of this thread, Layne was the first name that popped into my head.

[garyjacosta]

Maynard does rock more than any other frontman... don't know that he's underrated, but felt I had to give the man his due.

As for truly underrated frontmen, I submit Cedric Bixler of At the Drive In and Mars Volta fame.
Has a unique style and vision, not the same old rehashed crap so many bands seem to spew out.

Just my 2 cents

[New001]

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Scott Weiland would be under rated if STP didn't suck.

My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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I teared up a little when I heard Layne died. /images/graemlins/frown.gif He is by far my favorite, and very very underrated.

[ptmusic]

Brad Delp. Not as cool as most names in this thread, but definitely underrated.

-ptmusic

[daveymck]

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My vote goes to Layne Staley.

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Several years ago I saw Alice In Chains live, whilst I loved there music and thought Dirt was an awesome album, Staley was so stoned he could barely stand up let alone sing a note. About hour into the show drummer Sean Kinney got fed up, trashed his kit and walked off.

The rest of the band followed until Jerry Cantrell emerged did an acoustic version of Rooster and show over.

A.I.C = Cool
Layne Staley = Drug whore suck

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AIC are the worst band I have seen live how I subsequently bought and enjoyed dirt I dont know, they supported Megadeth over here (who I thikn are the most boring band live as well).

I dont see how you can say Patton was underrated he certainly wanst in the rock and metal press over here, Faith No more were pretty big over here though.

My fave frontman is Bruce Dickenson form Maiden saw them last week and after normally seeing smaller/pub type bands to see a guy completely in control of the crowd really brought home how really good bands who can last generally have good frontmen with presence.

[PokerBob]

paul (http://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/KE85/KE-paul3.jpeg)

[Lazymeatball]

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Alright, let's just make it a "Name some good frontmen" thread. I like Chris Cornell, whoever said that one - that was good.

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This I can agree upon, I like Chris Cornell alot. I wish they could replace all the Eddie Vedder verses in Temple of the Dog with more Chris Cornell.

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paul (http://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/KE85/KE-paul3.jpeg)

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That's a good one.

[TheMainEvent]

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By fans yes but non-fans fail to absorb his brilliance.

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The fact that everyone recognizes him simply by his initials indicates that he probably isn't underrated.

[swede123]

The answer is easy, Nick Lachey.

http://nude-male-celebs.net/stars/nick_lachey/photos/3.jpg

Swede

[PokerBob]

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paul (http://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/KE85/KE-paul3.jpeg)

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That's a good one.

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indeed. i was worried the younger generation had totally missed who he is. i'm glad at least one of you is with it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[PokerBob]

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By fans yes but non-fans fail to absorb his brilliance.

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The fact that everyone recognizes him simply by his initials indicates that he probably isn't underrated.

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not everyone. i have no idea who we are talking about here.

[Beantown]

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The answer is clearly Geddy Lee.

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