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09-07-2005, 04:23 AM
I was curious how to do the math for the following problem, which I am sure will help me with similar questions in the future.
I want to know:
At what number of hands will 1% of players with a theoretical (-1BB/100) and a standard deviation of 30BB/100 still be winning?

I know similar questions have been covered in the past, but I need more of a walk through on how to solve this.
Thank you, and Good luck.

BruceZ
09-07-2005, 04:50 AM
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I was curious how to do the math for the following problem, which I am sure will help me with similar questions in the future.
I want to know:
At what number of hands will 1% of players with a theoretical (-1BB/100) and a standard deviation of 30BB/100 still be winning?

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1% of players will have a win rate at least S standard errors above average, where from Excel, S =NORMSINV(99%) =~ 2.33. We need S standard errors to be > 1 bb/100 to be winning. The standard error is 30/sqrt(N/100), so

S*30/sqrt(N/100) > 1

N < 100*(S*30)^2 = 487,070 hands.

09-07-2005, 04:59 AM
Thank you very much for the quick answer. Unfortunately, I didn't really understand it.
Is it possible to give a walk through?

BruceZ
09-07-2005, 05:28 AM
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Thank you very much for the quick answer. Unfortunately, I didn't really understand it.
Is it possible to give a walk through?

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That was a walk-through. I hardly know what else to write. I went back and made it an inequality, so that any number of hands less than this value will have at least 1% winners.

See the explanation of this similar problem (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3332617&page=&view=&s b=5&o=&vc=1) for a walk- through of the thought process. Here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3327911&page=&view=&s b=5&o=&vc=1) is another one. Let me know if you have any questions.

09-07-2005, 02:19 PM
That's exactly what I was looking for... Thanks!