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ejay
09-06-2005, 10:55 PM
Tonight was my first session of 3/6 and overall it went well. This is a hand that came up early and i was wondering what the correct turn play would be.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :#A500AF(utg)/ raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, utg checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds, utg calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
utg checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

If you bet and co raises is this a clear fold?

River: (5.66 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
utg checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, utg folds.

Final Pot: 7.66 BB

sy_or_bust
09-06-2005, 11:24 PM
This is very poorly played.

Either fold or 3-bet preflop, depending on how tight UTG's raising range is. Coldcalling is horrible.

The flop action is odd. Betting isn't terrible but a check is probably in order. You can't realistically clean up outs, this board can hit your opponents in a number of ways, etc. UTG may even be FPS'ing a strong hand and want to checkraise.

The turn check is very bad. It's 3-handed and nobody seems to care about the board. Easy bet, and you can fold to a raise against most players given this action. You don't fear that someone holds a ten so much as you worry about losing the whole pot if an ace, king, ten, or even flush card hits the river. Many of these hands will call your bet, so bet for value.

You should consider spending more time at 2/4 or below - 3/6 will kill you if you cannot play confidently and aggressively - maybe this is even a bankroll issue.

newhizzle
09-06-2005, 11:35 PM
you need to either reraise or fold preflop depending on your read on UTG, against an unknown, probly fold

bet the turn, if CO raises probly fold, but once again that is read depenent, i call down a more tricky opponent

otis_nixon
09-06-2005, 11:46 PM
fold preflop for sure unless guys stats are just a complete lag, but why did you bet the flop and check the turn when you made your hand, not good, bet fold to a raise other wise bet for value

TheHammer24
09-06-2005, 11:53 PM
Cold calling is not spewing as much as you guys are making it out to be with AQo. IMO, against an unknown UTG it is the second best option, fold, call, 3-bet.

Flop bet is odd. You aren't going to clear up any outs but you do gain some deception and you may have the best hand. It would be nice to clear out some opponents regardless of wheter or not they have some of your outs.

Turn check is really weak tight. Bet/Fold. You can't give a free card.

River bet is in line.

bryan4967
09-07-2005, 12:25 AM
agree with all points. /images/graemlins/spade.gif