$22 Draw

[Olback]

$22 Eurobet

Did i overplay this draw? Mightymet has been playing tight and he figured he had the king. I called because i figured that even if the king was not in front i would win with any heart. Was this a worthwhile gamble or should i have folded to the raise?

#Game No : 2655437321
***** Hand History for Game 2655437321 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15457526 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Sunday, September 04, 23:17:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 14889 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: bobosun ( $1225 )
Seat 2: mightymets06 ( $465 )
Seat 3: cco1lpkc0 ( $510 )
Seat 5: KittyLiquor5 ( $725 )
Seat 6: Olback1 ( $800 )
Seat 7: FloridaJosh ( $1670 )
Seat 8: hendricj14 ( $1125 )
Seat 9: cementtruck ( $460 )
Seat 10: lucky2001 ( $1020 )
Trny:15457526 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback1 [ Kh 4h ]
FloridaJosh: haha
FloridaJosh folds.
hendricj14 folds.
cementtruck calls [30].
lucky2001 folds.
bobosun folds.
mightymets06 calls [30].
cco1lpkc0 folds.
FloridaJosh: there were hotties on that team i bet
KittyLiquor5 calls [15].
Olback1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 2h, Kc ]
>You have options at Table 15063 Table!.
KittyLiquor5 checks.
mightymets06: after high school, i trained with jason varitek and his trainers till i got my shot
Olback1 bets [80].
cementtruck calls [80].
mightymets06: so i coached until then
mightymets06 is all-In [435]
KittyLiquor5 folds.
FloridaJosh: he went to brantley right?
Olback1 is all-In [690]
cementtruck is all-In [350]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
Olback1 shows [ Kh, 4h ] a flush, king high.
cementtruck shows [ 7h, 3h ] a flush, nine high.
mightymets06 shows [ Kd, Jh ] a pair of kings.
Olback1 wins 335 chips from side pot #2 with a flush, king high with king kicker.
Olback1 wins 10 chips from side pot #1 with a flush, king high with king kicker.
Olback1 wins 1410 chips from the main pot with a flush, king high with king kicker.
cementtruck finished in ninth place.
mightymets06 finished in eighth place.
mightymets06 has left the table.
cementtruck has left the table.
Game #2655446784 starts.

[tigerite]

I don't like it much, I think checking is better, then when the action gets back to you, well, don't want to cop out but "it depends". You've got top pair crap kicker and are drawing to the 2nd nuts.

[kevkev60614]

I like the push. If you put him on any one K, you're a favorite to win HU. I'd be terrified of seeing Ax of hearts behind me, though.

Edit: I like the 80 bet and then the push. I was paying more attention to the push than the 80 bet.

[Olback]

So checkraising all in would have been a better option?

Or check/folding if facing serious action?

I admit i consider doing that but for some reason bet. What i am curious about is if i should have folded to the all in raise or if i should have called it.

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
I like the push. If you put him on any one K, you're a favorite to win HU. I'd be terrified of seeing Ax of hearts behind me, though.

Edit: I like the 80 bet and then the push. I was paying more attention to the push than the 80 bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're basically a coinflip and have no FE so that's nonsense to say you're "a favourite to win HU" - when the blinds are 15/30 that doesn't really matter. If you are one of the best players at the table you should be looking to avoid that kind of situation. (Also, you're not, you have 13 outs, so where you came up with that from, I am not sure)

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
So checkraising all in would have been a better option?

Or check/folding if facing serious action?

I admit i consider doing that but for some reason bet. What i am curious about is if i should have folded to the all in raise or if i should have called it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like I say, it depends.. be aware that if you're against Kx with x greater than 4 (not unlikely) you have 13 outs, and against a set far less. Only against AA (or unlikely underpair) are you a favourite with 15 outs. So depends how comfortable you feel when you're likely to be down to 400 chips over half the time that you don't win here.

Of course if he has a heart with his K then it's less than 13 outs but that's by the by

[lastchance]

TP + Flush Draw = 2 Pair, IMHO. There's no way I'm folding 2 pair on the flop in a low-limit game, and there's no way I'm folding TP + Flush draw here with 10+ outs.

I like the push, but I think check-raising is also very strong. You're not afraid of a free card, and the turn kinda puts you in no man's land.

[kevkev60614]

[ QUOTE ]
(Also, you're not, you have 12 outs, so where you came up with that from, I am not sure)

[/ QUOTE ]

Any K includes K3 and K2. Also, I think you have a little FE here. I think many players fold a small flush draw to two pushes. I'm not saying it's right, but it happens. My point was that even if he can put the pusher on K9 and could get it HU, he has about the right odds to call. OP didn't say what he thought cementtruck might've had. I still think push is best.

[tigerite]

Why would you want them to fold a small flush draw? You have no FE over the KJ guy because he's already all-in!

[kevkev60614]

[ QUOTE ]
Why would you want them to fold a small flush draw? You have no FE over the KJ guy because he's already all-in!

[/ QUOTE ]

I know you have no FE over the K, and I'm not saying you want a small flush draw to fold. But I'm saying if you push, he may fold. I probably wasn't clear in my previous posts. I was trying to say that you've got the pot odds to call the K's push. And since the OP hasn't said anything about the other player, we don't have any idea what he has or whether he'll even call. The more I think about it, the more sure I am that a push is right.

I also don't see why the 80 bet bothers you. This is a textbook semi-bluff.

[tigerite]

Because it gives someone a chance to push and knock you off the best hand, whereas a check-raise from you has the opposite effect.

[kyro]

I play it same.