Pushing lvl 4....how many in a row is too many?

[Wevie]

Party 10+1

First hand - less than 10BB with only two to act. T9o is maybe a stretch but .......


#Game No : 2661677939
***** Hand History for Game 2661677939 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15487570 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 05, 23:25:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 11810 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: bflorider ( $1580 )
Seat 6: Maverick2055 ( $1610 )
Seat 8: rackets1 ( $1855 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $605 )
Seat 7: ccmcgood ( $570 )
Seat 4: okton80 ( $1780 )
Trny:15487570 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9s Tc ]
Maverick2055 folds.
ccmcgood folds.
rackets1 folds.
HERO is all-In [605]
okton80 folds.
bflorider folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 755 chips
Game #2661680288 starts.


Very next hand. Kx with three left to act. <10BB. Two in a row? Why not.

#Game No : 2661680288
***** Hand History for Game 2661680288 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15487570 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 05, 23:25:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 11810 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: bflorider ( $1480 )
Seat 6: Maverick2055 ( $1610 )
Seat 8: rackets1 ( $1855 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $755 )
Seat 7: ccmcgood ( $570 )
Seat 4: okton80 ( $1730 )
Trny:15487570 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh 6c ]
ccmcgood folds.
rackets1 folds.
HERO is all-In [755]
okton80 folds.
bflorider folds.
Maverick2055 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 905 chips
Game #2661682582 starts.

Very next hand. <10BB. 4 left to act. Third in a row, but KJo. Not a bad hand here.

#Game No : 2661682582
***** Hand History for Game 2661682582 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15487570 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 05, 23:25:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 11810 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: bflorider ( $1430 )
Seat 6: Maverick2055 ( $1510 )
Seat 8: rackets1 ( $1855 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $905 )
Seat 7: ccmcgood ( $570 )
Seat 4: okton80 ( $1730 )
Trny:15487570 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc Kh ]
rackets1 folds.
HERO is all-In [905]
okton80 folds.
bflorider folds.
Maverick2055 folds.
ccmcgood is all-In [470]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 8s, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
ccmcgood shows [ Jd, 7d ] a pair of eights.
HERO shows [ Jc, Kh ] a pair of eights.
HERO wins 335 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of eights with king kicker.
HERO wins 1190 chips from the main pot with a pair of eights with king kicker.
ccmcgood finished in sixth place.
ccmcgood has left the table.
Game #2661685327 starts.

VERY NEXT HAND. Hey, I just made t470 on the last one. Now I get A8s. The hands keep getting better. Only thing I didn't consider is that now I'm over 10BB. Four in a row is a stretch, right?

#Game No : 2661685327
***** Hand History for Game 2661685327 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15487570 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 05, 23:26:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 11810 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: bflorider ( $1430 )
Seat 6: Maverick2055 ( $1460 )
Seat 8: rackets1 ( $1855 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $1525 )
Seat 4: okton80 ( $1730 )
Trny:15487570 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ah 8h ]
HERO is all-In [1525]
okton80 is all-In [1730]
bflorider folds.
Maverick2055 folds.
rackets1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 7h, 2c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
HERO shows [ Ah, 8h ] a pair of queens.
okton80 shows [ Ts, Tc ] two pairs, queens and tens.
okton80 wins 205 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and tens.
okton80 wins 3150 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and tens.
HERO finished in fifth place.
HERO has left the table.
Game #2661688670 starts.


Thoughts?

[mlagoo]

the k6 and a8 are sure folds for me.

the t9 and kj i'm iffy about, and it probably just depends on what i think about the people in the blinds/behind me.

all in all, i'm not a big fan. especially of the a8, UTG, after three straight pushes! hmph.

[Freudian]

[ QUOTE ]

#Game No : 2661685327
***** Hand History for Game 2661685327 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15487570 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 05, 23:26:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 11810 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: bflorider ( $1430 )
Seat 6: Maverick2055 ( $1460 )
Seat 8: rackets1 ( $1855 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $1525 )
Seat 4: okton80 ( $1730 )
Trny:15487570 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ah 8h ]
HERO is all-In [1525]
okton80 is all-In [1730]
bflorider folds.
Maverick2055 folds.
rackets1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 7h, 2c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
HERO shows [ Ah, 8h ] a pair of queens.
okton80 shows [ Ts, Tc ] two pairs, queens and tens.
okton80 wins 205 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and tens.
okton80 wins 3150 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and tens.
HERO finished in fifth place.
HERO has left the table.
Game #2661688670 starts.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

It sucks.

After pushing three in a row I think folding this one is the best option. Making a standard raise is ok. Pushing is absolutely horrible.

Me thinks you have swallowed the whole pushbot concept too much and need to take a few steps back and think about why you do things, what you risk by doing them and what you stand to gain by doing them.

I'd fold the second hand and most likely the first hand also (depends on the tightness of the blinds).

After pushing three in a row, I just love picking up a monster as someone will nearly always call soon enough. Its the law of averages that someone will have a hand coupled with your apparent looseness/recklessness.

....and a very good reason to fold A8o UTG. Try and feel what the table will feel for your pushes and evaluate that against who is in front of you and how your hand might fair.

[Wevie]

That was HORRIBLE, wasn't it? Gawd, I can't believe I did that.

IMO - If I was still under 10BB I'd push it, even after three previous pushes.

The first is borderline. The Kx's - if ya don't push this under 10BB's I don't see an ITM in the future.

[Ogre]

i think KJ is the only one i like, A8 if you still have a small stack

[Freudian]

[ QUOTE ]
That was HORRIBLE, wasn't it? Gawd, I can't believe I did that.

IMO - If I was still under 10BB I'd push it, even after three previous pushes.

The first is borderline. The Kx's - if ya don't push this under 10BB's I don't see an ITM in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

It was K6o, which is a shitty hand. Certainly not good enough for pushing into three players when you have 7.5xBB.

Now is it just me, or is this absolutely horrible? I'm on about CCMCGOODs call. I know he has a small stack but the blinds surely allow him to wait for something better...

HERO is all-In [905]
okton80 folds.
bflorider folds.
Maverick2055 folds.
ccmcgood is all-In [470]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 8s, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
ccmcgood shows [ Jd, 7d ] a pair of eights.

[The Don]

Is this thread a joke? If not... horrible.

[mlagoo]

[ QUOTE ]
The Kx's - if ya don't push this under 10BB's I don't see an ITM in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is way less of an obvious push than you seem to think. and certainly is marginal enough that not pushing here isnt going to make you a losing player.

[Wevie]

[ QUOTE ]
this is way less of an obvious push than you seem to think. and certainly is marginal enough that not pushing here isnt going to make you a losing player.


[/ QUOTE ]

I had to read that three times to get the point.

Maybe I've found something here I should look at.

<10BB Kx isn't the obvious push I've been thinking it was.

[Pudge714]

T9-Ok
K6-Bad
KJ-Ok
A8- God awful

[stupidsucker]

only one I push there at the 11s is the first one.

[tigerite]

1 is borderline for me, but okay.
2 is a FOLD. What are you on about '<10bb' for? Has nothing to do with it.
3 is also a FOLD. Your stack is now 9bb. Shorty in the bb who will call a lot.
4 is the worst of the lot. FOLD every time

Many leaks in your game here. I could just about see a reason for pushing 3, but it's really close and probably not worth it.

PS In 3 you got lucky he called with J7o because he really shouldn't call that there, at all. In other words, he's a donk. Any decent player there won't call that.

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
That was HORRIBLE, wasn't it? Gawd, I can't believe I did that.

IMO - If I was still under 10BB I'd push it, even after three previous pushes.

The first is borderline. The Kx's - if ya don't push this under 10BB's I don't see an ITM in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

Utter crap.

[unreal_nh]

[ QUOTE ]
T9-Ok
K6-Bad
KJ-Ok
A8- God awful

[/ QUOTE ]

[tigerite]

I'm still not sure on KJ, to be quite honest. 9bb is a lot to be risking pushing this UTG+1 with a short stack in the BB likely to call any A, any pair. (Well, and J7s it seems, but that was ridiculous)