A crazy 75-150 game

[Cactus Cactus]

I usually play online, but yesterday I decided to go to the casino. There was a 5 handed 75-150 game going on (6 handed w/ me). There was one pro who played correctly, and the 4 others were raising and re-raising to no ends. About 80% of the time we capped pre flop. Flop is usually capped too. Turn and river aren't as crazy.

In the S&M advanced it says in that in truely maniac games you wait for AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AKs, AQs, AJs, and AK. However this game is short 6 handed. And often is 5 handed when one of the drunks playing sits out to hit on the cock tail waitresses. So having said that, if you play tight you are going to get blinded to DEATH.

Is this game profitable?

[Roman]

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About 80% of the time we capped pre flop. Flop is usually capped too.


Is this game profitable?

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[Eric P]

lend me 10k and i'll win in it. Of course it is.

[Cactus Cactus]

Sorry... idiots I thought that you guys were smart enough to perhaps explain why it is profitable. How? What is the strategy?

[DcifrThs]

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Sorry... idiots I thought that you guys were smart enough to perhaps explain why it is profitable. How? What is the strategy?

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nice, ask for advice, then insult those from whom you seek it.

here's a question for ya...maybe it'll help you understand the situation better,

is poker a game of mistakes?
is it corect to cap preflop w/ 80% of your holdings (or put in 4 bets w/ 80%)?

now ask the question again, is the game profitable?

Barron

[kurosh]

I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

[J.A.Sucker]

I'm missing something here...

You write:

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if you play tight you are going to get blinded to DEATH.


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This isn't as true as people think for a 6 handed game. Even better you write:

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About 80% of the time we capped pre flop. Flop is usually capped too. Turn and river aren't as crazy.


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So these guys put in way too much action early, and then fail to protect their hands on the big streets, when great players apply the most pressure. Yeah, I'd say the game is only beatable for about 500 bucks an hour, and even a monkey could win in this one.

[mmcd]

Is this game profitable?

Of course not, and anyone that tells you otherwise is lying.

How can you expect to have an edge in a game when 4 or 5 drunk guys are auto-capping the first two betting rounds?

If you wait for big hands, you'll find yourself blinded away, then when you finally get a monster, it will almost certainly get cracked, so you have to get in there and mix it up with them. It would be like playing roulette, you put your money down and just hope you win at the end of the hand, but since there are 5 of them and only one of you, they will win most of time.

[flawless_victory]

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Is this game profitable?

Of course not, and anyone that tells you otherwise is lying.

How can you expect to have an edge in a game when 4 or 5 drunk guys are auto-capping the first two betting rounds?

If you wait for big hands, you'll find yourself blinded away, then when you finally get a monster, it will almost certainly get cracked, so you have to get in there and mix it up with them. It would be like playing roulette, you put your money down and just hope you win at the end of the hand, but since there are 5 of them and only one of you, they will win most of time.

[/ QUOTE ]good post.

[DcifrThs]

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I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

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i know the answer to that one.

at least now i see which camp you seem to be in.

Barron

[kurosh]

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I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

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i know the answer to that one.

at least now i see which camp you seem to be in.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know what you mean?? I was referring to the OP, if you thought I was insulting you.

[DcifrThs]

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I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

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i know the answer to that one.

at least now i see which camp you seem to be in.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know what you mean?? I was referring to the OP, if you thought I was insulting you.

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ah, thought the reply was to be for asking the OP to ask himself those Qs.

Barron

[InfernoLL]

Do you actually play poker or is it just a fun way for you to spend a lot of money? I can't imagine someone who posts on 2+2 and plays high limit games asking this question. I also can't imagine such a person having not outgrown the advice in HPFAP, or at least being able to rethink how it may apply to a specific game. This is a question someone playing 2/4 should be asking, not 75/150.

[kurosh]

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I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

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i know the answer to that one.

at least now i see which camp you seem to be in.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know what you mean?? I was referring to the OP, if you thought I was insulting you.

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ah, thought the reply was to be for asking the OP to ask himself those Qs.

Barron

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Ok, I'm even more confused now. The question "Am I a douchebag?" was for the OP.

[DcifrThs]

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I think a better question to ask yourself is, "Am I a douchebag?"

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i know the answer to that one.

at least now i see which camp you seem to be in.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know what you mean?? I was referring to the OP, if you thought I was insulting you.

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ah, thought the reply was to be for asking the OP to ask himself those Qs.

Barron

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Ok, I'm even more confused now. The question "Am I a douchebag?" was for the OP.

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sweet lol. we cool.

Barron

[KdoubleK]

Ok, so the original poster started by asking an easy yes or no question then opened himself up to get flamed, which nobody here can resist doing for any reason. Fine. But I think his follow up question deserves some discussion. What's the correct strategy? What starting hands should you play? More importantly, what borderline hands should be mucked? If flop is autocapped, is middle or bottom pair good enough to take to the river? Should all draws be played? With a medium strong made hand like top pair good kicker, should you keep the lead on the big streets or play defense?

[DcifrThs]

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Ok, so the original poster started by asking an easy yes or no question then opened himself up to get flamed, which nobody here can resist doing for any reason. Fine. But I think his follow up question deserves some discussion. What's the correct strategy? What starting hands should you play? More importantly, what borderline hands should be mucked? If flop is autocapped, is middle or bottom pair good enough to take to the river? Should all draws be played? With a medium strong made hand like top pair good kicker, should you keep the lead on the big streets or play defense?

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Big cards big pairs.

draws go down in value. so do small pairs b/c they aren't putting in 4 bets on EVERY street

put in the money when you have high cards and high pairs, also big suited cards. the blinding to death thing is a clear exaggeration. as JA said, its less than you'd think.

put the money in there w/ large cards, big suited ones and big pairs.

Barron