10/20 vs. IFoundMyName

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Villian is 29/18/1.55 after 1260 hands

Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, IFoundMyName checks.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, IFoundMyName checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, IFoundMyName calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets, IFoundMyName calls, MP folds, CO folds.

River: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, IFoundMyName bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot:

FWIW, BB auto-bet the river. Thoughts?

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[NLSoldier]

Id probably bet the flop. I cant beleive you check/folded the river.

[wheelz]

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Id probably bet the flop. I cant beleive you check/folded the river.

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Id probably bet the flop. I cant beleive you check/folded the river.

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What would you put him on that I beat?

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[tongni]

Congratulations, you have probably saved .01 of a BB. Just bet-fold or check call and sob.

[Buck_65]

What limit is this? I would never fold this river regardless of the limit, though.

Edit: Sorry, I'm retarded. Duh, it's 10/20. I don't play 10/20 so I don't know how the game plays, but I still can't imagine folding here being correct.

[wheelz]

how could you not notice the thread title when you clicked on it? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[shant]

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Id probably bet the flop. I cant beleive you check/folded the river.

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[Danenania]

I would also bet the flop. I tend to not go for the checkraise unless I have a good idea of where the bet is likely to come from and whether that helps me.

I don't like the river fold. I almost do, but I'm suspicious because he didn't bet the flop.

[bobbyi]

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What would you put him on that I beat?

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Who knows? This guy can pretty aggressive; I don't see how you can fold here for one bet.

Random example hand:

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: IFoundMyName is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">IFoundMyName raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (1.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">IFoundMyName bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, IFoundMyName calls.

Turn: (2.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
IFoundMyName checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">IFoundMyName raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">IFoundMyName caps</font>, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">IFoundMyName bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

[kurosh]

I raise PF, bet the flop and either cc or bet-call the river.

[New001]

Did he show you his cards or something? I don't see how you can fold that.

[jrbick]

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Id probably bet the flop. I cant beleive you check/folded the river.

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I use auto-bet all the time... and auto-check, and auto-fold.

[ALL1N]

Well nobody has put the guy on a hand you beat. I can't see a problem with the fold.

[Danenania]

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Well nobody has put the guy on a hand you beat. I can't see a problem with the fold.

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I can't put him on a hand that beats us either though. Wouldn't diamonds or 43 have bet the flop? Also look at his play in the hand Bobbyi posted. I'm thinking there's a good chance he has something screwy here.

[me454555]

Villain is BB here so he could have any random starting hand. Jx is a distinct possibilty as is 43. On top of that he could have 25 maybe Ad5. The fact is that the pot is so big and he got a free play in the big blind that you almost have to call here.

[Lmn55d]

a good player wouldn't check and call 2 cold with Jx. He also would only call 43s out of BB and would bet 43d on flop so thats 3 combos of that. Even if he did, 43 just rivered a straight... 25 doesn't check and call 2 either. Neither does Ad5.

[bobbyi]

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Jx is a distinct possibilty as is 43.

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You should not be excited by the possibility of him having 34.

[ALL1N]

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I'm thinking there's a good chance he has something screwy here.

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Then tell me what that something screwy is!! It seems a ridiculously far-fetched bluffing line for any crazy maniac let alone a TAG.

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Wouldn't diamonds or 43 have bet the flop?

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I can see a TAG playing a small flush draw or 43 in this manner from time to time. Reaching this river with a hand that doesn't beat JT I cannot.

[Danenania]

A2-A5 with the A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif perhaps? He would be getting 6:1ish effectively on the flop so I suppose I can see him justifying a call with these hands. On the river I can imagine this player betting the pairs for "value" and the low Aces as bluffs without giving much thought to it.

And maybe a worse J? He checks going for a c/r on flop, but when it's two to him decides to simply call down and collect overcalls since he might have kicker troubles. Of course when checked to on the river it becomes a simple bet for him.

These are both stretches but I think they are on the same level of weirdness as checking the flop with a four flush or 43.

[Vaftrudner]

Yeah, heros cr on the flop facing this guy with 2 cold is the key imho... (assuming he is a sane player of course) /v

[goofball]

Folding this river kills kittens by the truckload.