View Full Version : ak on bubble fold?
DMACM
09-04-2005, 02:05 PM
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BB (t425)
UTG (t3510)
Hero (t890)
SB (t3175)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">[i]hero folds
Tough one, depends on your reads.
Just know that even if you fold this, you are no way gauranteed to make top 3.
wiggs73
09-04-2005, 02:08 PM
I'd push it, but with a slightly larger stack I think it's a fold (or if the short stack is slightly smaller). As things stand, if shorty manages to double up once, it's going to put you in a real bind. I'd take my chances here.
ldavidjm
09-04-2005, 02:23 PM
BB is short but he isn't that short. And if he doubles you're in pretty bad shape. I'd take my chances and push here.
Hmm.. for me this is an easy push. Is that wrong? When would you NOT push this?
pokerlaw
09-04-2005, 02:59 PM
i would play this, but I would call b/c a push makes it too easy for SB to fold and let me gambol against the big stack.
wiggs73
09-04-2005, 03:01 PM
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i would play this, but I would call b/c a push makes it too easy for SB to fold and let me gambol against the big stack.
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Calling for 300 with a hand that needs improvement when your stack is 890 is AWFUL. Calling is the one way that I would not play this hand.
pokerlaw
09-04-2005, 03:04 PM
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i would play this, but I would call b/c a push makes it too easy for SB to fold and let me gambol against the big stack.
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Calling for 300 with a hand that needs improvement when your stack is 890 is AWFUL. Calling is the one way that I would not play this hand.
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its the bubble and look at the shortstack. I dont see hero having much/if any FE by pushing. If UTG was tight/popping MRes a lot, a push is better I feel, but generally i call here.
wiggs73
09-05-2005, 05:23 PM
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its the bubble and look at the shortstack. I dont see hero having much/if any FE by pushing. If UTG was tight/popping MRes a lot, a push is better I feel, but generally i call here.
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You make it sound as if you're in great shape over the shortstack if you call and then check-fold the flop.
Also, I'm not worried about FE really. I know he doesn't have any by pushing. I'm not pushing because I think I have FE, I'm pushing because I likely have the best hand or am a very small dog, don't have a great shot at making the money by folding it, and want to see all 5 cards.
I still fail to see any merit in calling to see a flop. You're going to miss 2/3 of the time and be in a tough spot when you do.
raptor517
09-05-2005, 06:44 PM
im shoving it. idiot big stack still might fold for 590 more, ya never know. didnt say what limit this is, but im assuming its a 22 or so. yea, i shove. shove shove shove. bb could double and yer screwed, gotta seize this opportunity. holla
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