how good is KQ?

this is something that happens to me all the time. generally, i play KQ pretty strong. in this case... i kinda wussed out. seemed like too many callers for what is mostly a top pair/nice kicker starting hand. how do you play KQ here, and in general?


***** Hand History for Game 2651660896 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15439371 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Sunday, September 04, 11:10:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 11628 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 8: HERO ( $775 )
Seat 7: jerrym229 ( $725 )
Seat 5: easyrider666 ( $35 )
Seat 2: prunch ( $790 )
Seat 10: polespipes ( $645 )
Seat 4: studden ( $900 )
Seat 3: uclabruinz ( $845 )
Seat 6: jonoto ( $1615 )
Seat 9: PokerPursuit ( $755 )
Seat 1: air135 ( $915 )
Trny:15439371 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qh Kd ]
air135 folds.
prunch raises [55].
uclabruinz folds.
studden folds.
easyrider666 folds.
jonoto calls [55].
jerrym229 calls [55].
HERO folds.
PokerPursuit folds.
polespipes calls [40].

[lorinda]

If you folded KQ in low limit games from level 1-3 without any thought at all, you wouldn't do yourself any long term damage.

It's playable, but you have to be comfortable with playing after the flop as you'll get into some tricky situations.

Edit: In the hand you describe, I fold happily.

Lori

[The once and future king]

This is my favourite post ever.

[mcpherzen]

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If you folded KQ in low limit games from level 1-3 without any thought at all, you wouldn't do yourself any long term damage.

It's playable, but you have to be comfortable with playing after the flop as you'll get into some tricky situations.

Edit: In the hand you describe, I fold happily.

Lori

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I completely agree with Lori.

If you feel you don't play well post-flop, KQ is the perfect hand to add to the repetoir to start getting some experience. ONLY play it in unraised pots for the following 2 reasons:

1. Opponents usually raise with AK and AQ. This is why KQ is so hard to play in raised pots. If a K or a Q flop, and you catch any heat at all, it's very difficult to figure out where you are, and much of the time, you'll be way behind.

2. Opponents usually raise with AK and AQ (same point I made in #1). So in an unraised pot, it's unlikely you're against AK or AQ. Now when a K or Q comes, you can play it with about 99% confidence you have TPTK.

--Z

I like this post too. A tricky hand that looks pretty but gets you in trouble.

What about KQo in MP folded around to you? Obviously depends on the type of players behind you, but in general - raise or call?

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What about KQo in MP folded around to you? Obviously depends on the type of players behind you, but in general - raise or call?

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hmmm... yeah. tough. i'd say, if i feel like the table is on the tight side i raise. even if i think i can just get the blinds to drop, it's probably worth a raise. if the blinds are loose, i probably call.

[tom441lbk]

first two levels i'm routinely folding this, ESPECIALLY in this situation. Maybe i'm playing this in lp if its folded to me i'll give it a loose jerk depending on my stack size.
In level 3 i'm starting to open it up more with kq/aj and other type hands like this in ep/mp, depending on the number of players still in. I feel that KQ is often an overplayed hand by donkeys.

-Tom