Mr. Curious
09-03-2005, 08:48 PM
I am in a live NL game last night and I consider the guy to my left to be a decent player with whom I have been chatting with. I am involved in a heads up hand against a LAG who will call a bet if he thinks he can draw out on you:
LAG is the button.
Hero is the big blind.
It is folded to the LAG who raises and Hero is the only caller. I have twice his stack which is roughly $500. I flop an open ended straight draw (though there is a flush draw on the board), check the flop, and call his 1/2 pot bet. On the turn, I hit my straight, but it is the flush card too. I decide to try for a check raise (in hind sight, that decision was my biggest mistake), but he checks it through. On the river, the board pairs and I make what I think is a value bet of 1/4 the pot. LAG raises 3x my bet and after thinking about it for a while, I call. The LAG flips over quads.
The following conversation then occurrs between me and the guy to my left:
Me: Guess I should have bet the turn.
Guy to left: No, you should not have bet because that guy would have called no matter what.
Me: Yeah, but I gave him infinite odds to catch up.
Guy to left: You saved yourself money by not betting the turn. He's going to call you.
Me: That's exactly why I should have bet the turn.
Guy on left: No, you saved a lot more by not betting.
Me: Yeah, you're right.
I let it go at that (obviously I do not want to change his mind), but I was really surprised by his comments. He had seemed like a decent player and had talked about other concepts before. Well, chatting with him has payed off for me because I now have more information about him and the way he plays which I can use against him some other time.
LAG is the button.
Hero is the big blind.
It is folded to the LAG who raises and Hero is the only caller. I have twice his stack which is roughly $500. I flop an open ended straight draw (though there is a flush draw on the board), check the flop, and call his 1/2 pot bet. On the turn, I hit my straight, but it is the flush card too. I decide to try for a check raise (in hind sight, that decision was my biggest mistake), but he checks it through. On the river, the board pairs and I make what I think is a value bet of 1/4 the pot. LAG raises 3x my bet and after thinking about it for a while, I call. The LAG flips over quads.
The following conversation then occurrs between me and the guy to my left:
Me: Guess I should have bet the turn.
Guy to left: No, you should not have bet because that guy would have called no matter what.
Me: Yeah, but I gave him infinite odds to catch up.
Guy to left: You saved yourself money by not betting the turn. He's going to call you.
Me: That's exactly why I should have bet the turn.
Guy on left: No, you saved a lot more by not betting.
Me: Yeah, you're right.
I let it go at that (obviously I do not want to change his mind), but I was really surprised by his comments. He had seemed like a decent player and had talked about other concepts before. Well, chatting with him has payed off for me because I now have more information about him and the way he plays which I can use against him some other time.